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serialhexis anyone on??  i know it's got to be like stoopit-o-clock-am in germany... but maybe someone is an early riser there???03:27
serialhexyep... just added a widget for germany-time and it's 3:33am there :P  ok, maybe i'll just e-mail my Q03:33
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serialhexQ has been e-mailed... and sleep is on its way (1:20 here... 7:20 there :P )07:19
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CIA-31shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r4276e9b / src/configure :12:19
CIA-31shogun: Improve lua detection12:19
CIA-31shogun: lua-config is only available on debian systems12:19
CIA-31shogun: (and already obsoleted). We therefore attempt to use lua config and if12:19
CIA-31shogun: that fails fall back to a simply -llua<ver> etc. - http://bit.ly/fOQuNO12:19
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CIA-31shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rb3d0c44 / src/configure :13:51
CIA-31shogun: define #shogun13:51
CIA-31shogun: This way potential submodules know that they are13:51
CIA-31shogun: compiled within shogun. - http://bit.ly/eX6ivh13:51
CIA-31shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r54f4f73 / (src/Makefile src/Makefile.template):14:07
CIA-31shogun: add -follow option to find14:07
CIA-31shogun: This enable symlinked sub-modules. - http://bit.ly/dZvopt14:07
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CIA-31shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rc26d04a / (src/Makefile src/Makefile.template):15:47
CIA-31shogun: Revert "add -follow option to find"15:47
CIA-31shogun: This reverts commit 54f4f735cf9956899de750b8fd9aeeb8bf0afd03 (was15:47
CIA-31shogun:  causing infinity loops upon find) - http://bit.ly/dO1FG515:47
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hiteshkhi sonney2k19:37
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@sonney2khi21:02
@bettyboosonney2k, moin21:02
@sonney2kbetty is always there for us :)21:03
@bettyboosonney2k: it is always good to have a bot doing some real work - even though its name is *heh*21:03
@bettyboo;D21:03
* sonney2k wonders what kindof AI knrrrd built into betty21:10
@sonney2khiteshk, you were pinging me?21:10
hiteshksonney2k , you said that svm_light source code is not available , but it is there21:12
@sonney2khiteshk, it is available but it is not open source21:12
hiteshkyou want to use it for commercial purpose21:13
hiteshkya , got it21:16
hiteshkI want to ask whethet we can use SMO algorithm in our implementation or not21:17
@sonney2khiteshk, well open source means that one cannot limit what the code is used for21:25
@sonney2kand no I don't want to use it for commercial software21:25
@sonney2khiteshk, SMO is already implemented in libsvm21:26
@sonney2kI don't think that code can be easily improved (they've done a very good job)21:26
@sonney2khowever, there are some clever things one can do in chunking based methods like svmlight.21:27
@sonney2kand I am not happy about the dependency ...21:28
hiteshkBut don't we need QP solver for that21:28
hiteshklike primal dual interior point solver which is a disadvantage21:29
hiteshkSMO does not need that21:29
hiteshkwhat dependency are you referring to21:37
@sonney2khiteshk, we have pr_loqo in shogun - that is what svm light is using as qp-solver now21:52
@sonney2khiteshk, it is true SMO is more elegant in this respect21:53
hiteshksonney2k , svmlight has many options , do I have to implement all of them22:00
@sonney2khiteshk, just an svm solver22:00
@sonney2knot transduction or whatever useless estimation :D22:01
@bettybooyep.22:01
hiteshksonney2k ,  where should I submit my proposal so that you can suggest some improvements22:05
@sonney2khiteshk, so it boils down to selecting chunks to be optimized in the qp solver, selecting the chunks effecitvely using the alphas that have the highest gradient, doing speedups for linear svms and shrinking22:06
@sonney2kto me in private if you want22:06
hiteshkhow to do speedups for linear svms22:10
hiteshkexcept SMO algorithm22:10
@sonney2kby keeping the 'w' around22:12
@sonney2ki.e. start with w=022:12
@sonney2kthen when alpha_1 ... alpha_q change only compute an update on w, via w <- w + \sum_i (alpha_i - alpha_i^old) \Phi(x_i)22:14
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hiteshkwhat is this \Phi(x_i) ; it is \sigma x_i * y_i * \alpha_i in w expression generally22:47
@sonney2kjust some feature space transformation function22:48
hiteshkok22:53
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@bettyboomorning sonney2k?23:09
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