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n4nd0good night people00:06
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CIA-64shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r5027750 / (19 files in 8 dirs):05:54
CIA-64shogun: made CDynamicObjectArray non-generic and updated all usages, examples05:54
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CIA-64shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * re4ab8a1 / (19 files in 8 dirs):05:54
CIA-64shogun: Merge pull request #478 from karlnapf/master05:54
CIA-64shogun: made DynamicObjectArray non-generic -
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n4nd0good morning10:44
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n4nd0hey gsomix11:52
n4nd0gsomix: did you want to tell me something yesterday?11:52
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gsomixn4nd0, hey. how are you?11:57
n4nd0gsomix: I'm fine, making my way through SQL :)11:58
n4nd0gsomix: what about you?11:58
gsomixn4nd0, bored. I'm doing homework.11:59
n4nd0gsomix: what class?12:01
gsomixn4nd0, analytical mechanics (I recently found out what is the difference from theoretical mechanics).12:03
n4nd0no idea about that :O12:04
gsomixtheoretical mechanics in russian education == applied mechanics. calculations of beams, mechanisms and other12:12
gsomixn4nd0, what about SL12:16
n4nd0gsomix: it is not bad, I am just learning the basics though12:17
n4nd0so I won't probably get to know the usefulness of it12:17
n4nd0gsomix: do you sth about it?12:19
n4nd0do you know*12:20
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gsomixn4nd0, nope. I remember only SELECT query and how to paint green GUI Forms in FoxPro. >___<12:23
n4nd0I think you already know more than I do then :P12:28
gsomixhuh :)12:28
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blackburn_n4nd0: havin' troubles with sql? :)13:40
n4nd0blackburn_: not really troubles, just going through the beginning of the learning curve :)13:41
blackburn_I see13:41
n4nd0the problem is that I don't find it very interesting this far13:41
blackburn_useful skill I'd say13:41
n4nd0I am not very motivated :(13:41
n4nd0blackburn_: do you think so?13:42
blackburn_can you mind any other way to operate on some data?13:42
n4nd0with search engines13:43
blackburn_but how do they work then? :)13:43
n4nd0AFAIK they are not built on databases13:44
blackburn_what should it be then?13:44
blackburn_anyway once you have some complex data you would meet some database usually13:45
n4nd0I would like to see an environment where they are useful13:45
blackburn_any enterprise application13:45
blackburn_or even any application working with data13:46
n4nd0put me an example of what you mean with application working with data13:46
blackburn_what about twitter?13:46
blackburn_aren't they built on top of database?13:47
n4nd0they probable store all the info in databases yes13:47
blackburn_yes specialized sometimes13:47
blackburn_some kind of nosql sometimes13:48
blackburn_how would you do any website with authorization?13:48
blackburn_everything you can come up instead of database is some DYI database13:49
n4nd0I am not familiarized with DYI database13:49
blackburn_I mean it will be 'do it yourself' stuff13:50
blackburn_there is really no other way to store data13:51
blackburn_any other attempt would lead to another database13:51
n4nd0let's see if I get some motivation from there13:52
blackburn_n4nd0: just imagine how difficult it would be to store some say orders13:54
blackburn_how would you approach it?13:55
blackburn_yes some orders of some clients13:55
blackburn_they like to have something13:55
n4nd0have to reboot13:56
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blackburn_n4nd0: so the simplest case - you want a website to sell plush bears13:59
n4nd0blackburn_: yeah13:59
blackburn_there is a form to store clients data like address, quantity etc13:59
blackburn_how would you approach it (w/o database)?14:00
blackburn_clients enter their data to order your bears and they actually do not care how it works14:00
n4nd0blackburn_: yes, one needs a database for that14:00
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blackburn_I'd say there could be a way to store that in files or so14:01
blackburn_but what is it in fact?14:01
n4nd0but I don't find that very interesting :P14:01
blackburn_just some lame database14:01
n4nd0yes, that would be to re-invent the wheel14:01
blackburn_99% of websites are like this one14:02
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blackburn_n4nd0: in principle you could say 'I don't like websites' :)14:03
n4nd0blackburn_: c'mon that's not the same14:03
blackburn_what is the difference between plush bears web store and facebook?14:04
blackburn_I'd say the only difference is some distributed databases and more complex technology and nothing more14:05
blackburn_n4nd0: can you list any? :)14:06
n4nd0blackburn_: I see more people spending time on facebook than on teddy bears webs14:08
blackburn_n4nd0: but we are discussing technologies right?14:08
n4nd0so there must be some difference apart from the way their databases are constructed :P14:08
n4nd0got me ...14:09
blackburn_n4nd0: no it is databases still14:09
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blackburn_n4nd0: and you should know that SQL queries are being optimized before running14:11
blackburn_there is a pretty big theory of databases and it allows you to retrieve data pretty fast14:12
blackburn_moreover there are some things like transactions and user rights14:12
blackburn_you would need all these things at some point14:12
n4nd0it looks like something pretty big there14:12
blackburn_and doing it once again is too hard for anyone14:13
blackburn_n4nd0: are you familiar with joins?14:14
n4nd0blackburn_: I have studied them in the course, but I wouldn't say I am very familiar with them14:14
blackburn_n4nd0: can you write it in say C++?14:14
blackburn_I would definitely fuck up with it14:15
blackburn_but it is really needed sometimes and if you avoid databases you have to write it by yourself at some point14:15
blackburn_so even if you need only a map of login/hash of password14:17
blackburn_once you would need to extend it or retrieve some custom data14:17
n4nd0I think you convinced me about the usefulness of it14:18
blackburn_n4nd0: hehe yeah I told you a lot of things14:19
blackburn_n4nd0: at the place I work (netcracker) - we develop crazy-complex operational support system14:20
blackburn_it is pretty flexible and all the entities can be described by java objects14:21
blackburn_however these java objects can't be really used to store data14:21
blackburn_for example transactions would be pretty impossible14:22
blackburn_and once you power off server you lost orders/clients data and lost money14:22
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blackburn_so the only way is to build system on top of some robust database like oracle14:23
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gsomixblackburn_, whre r u?15:54
PhilTilletblackburn_, p15:54
blackburn_711 as uslly15:54
blackburn_PhilTillet: k15:54
gsomixblackburn_, sadl15:55
gsomixblackburn_, t hme :]15:56
blackburn_dnner tme!15:57
PhilTilletthis conversation makes no sense!15:58
gsomixblackburn_, wuld y lke pie? I hav lttl bt.15:59
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@sonney2kn4nd0, hey - did you have time to do the benchmark?19:01
n4nd0sonney2k: not yet, sorry :(19:02
@sonney2kahh too bad19:02
@sonney2kn4nd0, I hope you find some too19:02
n4nd0I am fighting against a lab for one of my exams but I think I will get some by tomorrow afternoon19:02
@sonney2kn4nd0, ahh btw it would also be great if you can fix the warnings
@sonney2kthey are all in your area ...19:03
@sonney2kn4nd0, when are your exams?19:03
n4nd0sonney2k: 26th, 28th and on May 7th19:03
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@sonney2kn4nd0, saturday even?19:04
@sonney2kkarlnapf, thx for the patch!19:04
karlnapfsonney2k, np :)19:04
n4nd0sonney2k: yeah, some microwaves for Saturday19:04
karlnapfsonney2k, stay tuned for the subset stacks, just fixing the last tests19:04
@sonney2kkarlnapf, does that error make sense to you
@sonney2kI was just looking at the buildbot output so forgive me all for nagging19:05
@sonney2kkarlnapf, great!19:05
karlnapfsonney2k, yes I think that has to do with the non-generic stuff, I have deleted one type19:06
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karlnapfI will check that as soon I am done with my current stuff19:06
@sonney2kkarlnapf, k19:07
@sonney2kso tomorrow is the day and around 19:00 UTC we will all have some answers19:11
karlnapfsonney2k, you are talking to me? :)19:13
karlnapfif yes: what? :)19:14
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n4nd0I think I'll start to get nervous tomorrow :O19:18
@sonney2kn4nd0, no need to - all students are already assigned :P19:31
karlnapfsonney2k, do you know of any memory leaks in stream features?19:32
karlnapfI get some for v_array19:33
karlnapfwondering if they are my fault19:33
n4nd0karlnapf: I also got some once I used them19:34
karlnapfn4nd0, ok, where? I am getting them in the classifier_multiclasslinearmachine19:36
n4nd0yeah I think it was in this one, let me check19:37
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n4nd0yes, it was there19:38
karlnapfn4nd0, ok then19:39
karlnapfthats not my thing currently :)19:39
karlnapfI will perhaps write a bugreport19:39
n4nd0yeah do that19:40
n4nd0I remember I commented it when I did that pull request19:40
n4nd0but I do not quite recall whether I opened an issue19:40
karlnapfok I will check that first :)19:40
n4nd0karlnapf: it was in the PR you helped me with a warning by the way19:42
karlnapfoh year, I remember19:42
karlnapfI think we should check memory leaks in the tests automatically19:43
karlnapfthere might be more :)19:43
n4nd0yeah, it is a good idea19:44
@sonney2kkarlnapf, about your subset stack19:51
karlnapfsonney2k, yes?19:51
@sonney2kit is attached to labels / features / whatever object?19:51
karlnapflike the old one19:51
@sonney2kand then labels/features etc can just do a query -> subset_stack give me element i?19:52
karlnapfyes, nothing has changed interface wise (except for names)19:52
karlnapfbut now if you do multiple add_subset(), you have subsets of subsets instead of replacing19:52
@sonney2kand subsetstack has some precomputed (cached) merged subset index that it will look up in a table?19:52
karlnapfso you have to remove everytime you add19:52
@sonney2kkarlnapf, remove in the same order then right?19:53
karlnapfactually, it stores all the "active" subsets of the stack19:53
@sonney2kkarlnapf, wait so you can have many at the same time?19:53
karlnapfso that deleting one does not require to recompute19:53
karlnapfjust for performance19:53
@sonney2kkarlnapf, what is a 'active' subset?19:54
karlnapfactive subset is the merged19:54
karlnapfeverytime you add another subset, that  one is merged with the active19:54
karlnapfand put on stack19:54
karlnapfif you remove, you got the old active19:54
karlnapfand if you add this active is merged again19:54
@sonney2kkarlnapf, I see makes a lot of sense19:55
karlnapfit might become slow for many subsets otherwise19:55
karlnapfat the cost of memory, but thats not too much19:55
@sonney2kkarlnapf, I hope we won't have too many subsets but well this kind of cache won't hurt19:55
@sonney2kyeah it is not too much19:55
@sonney2kand disabling this would be easy if required19:56
karlnapfif this stuff works, some things might be simplified19:56
karlnapfsome of the locking stuff perhaps19:56
karlnapfand multiclass machine19:56
karlnapfah and xval with  multiclass machine is now possible19:56
@sonney2kkarlnapf, I am happy with the patch ... it is too big to see all the consequences - so lets hope the buildbot will catch most issues.20:01
CIA-64shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r4328d97 / (33 files in 7 dirs):20:01
CIA-64shogun: Merge pull request #480 from karlnapf/master20:01
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karlnapfsonney2k, Ill wait a bit to see what happens :)20:02
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@sonney2kkarlnapf, it is very clear that we need this. I also hope that the compiler will take care of not doing another memory access because of the m_subset->do_sth() but instead do_sth() immediately20:02
karlnapfyes, all the methods are inline, hope that works20:03
@sonney2kkarlnapf, I guess you haven't checked for performance right? I mean it doesn't matter that much for accessing a whole vector but it will hurt when sth like this is implemented for dims / aka sub_dims20:03
karlnapfno, no honset performance checks,20:03
karlnapfthats probably expensive20:04
karlnapfbut the main method is subset_idx_conversion20:04
karlnapfof CSubsetStack20:04
karlnapfand that is no too much stuff20:05
karlnapfone if and one ->20:05
karlnapfand of course the m_subset_stack->20:05
@sonney2kkarlnapf, yeah I don't see that we can do better20:06
@sonney2kprobably automagic refcounting would kill us here but with this manual way all good20:06
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karlnapfone problem is: currently the index sets are copied everytime, that sometimes is stupid20:11
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karlnapfmmh I will recompile here20:11
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@sonney2kkarlnapf, did you perhaps commit non-working intermediate things?20:12
@sonney2kkarlnapf, if so you too have to start using git commit --amend :)20:12
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karlnapfsonney2k, not by intention20:13
karlnapfargh, sorry for that20:13
karlnapfmmmh compiles here20:16
karlnapfat least python_modular ...20:16
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karlnapfsonney2k, is this perhaps a buildbot not up-to-date thing?20:18
karlnapfshogun-buildbot status20:19
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@sonney2kkarlnapf, it will build every commit20:22
karlnapfoh I did not know that thoug it would do the whole merge20:22
@sonney2kkarlnapf, so if an intermediate commit is broken it will complain20:22
karlnapfmmh, I like to commit things seperate because then the messages are tidier20:23
@sonney2kkarlnapf, it makes sense doesn't it? If you are looking for regressions you will exactly know which commit is kaboom20:23
karlnapfsonney2k, yes you are right20:23
@sonney2kkarlnapf, you can just ensure that it still builds20:23
@sonney2kand if you have to change a huge part of the code because of interdependencies20:23
@sonney2kwell then it should be one commit only in the end (and your can do that with git commit --amend or the git reset magic)20:24
karlnapfsonney2k, ok thanks, will do that in the future20:24
karlnapfsonney2k, I have to leave now, have a nice evening! :)20:25
@sonney2kkarlnapf, thanks for the patch20:25
@sonney2kand hope to see you and all tomorrow 19 UTC :)20:25
karlnapfsonney2k, yes, I will try to be there :)20:26
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blackburn_hey there20:37
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blackburn_sonney2k: have you cold some vodka?20:42
* wiking has a working latent svm !!20:42
blackburn_already? hey gsoc is starting tomorrow20:43
wikinghehehe who knows if i'm in or not ;P20:43
wikingwe'll see tomorrow20:43
blackburn_soeren knows20:43
wikingthe latent svm *is* WORKING!!!20:43
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blackburn_wiking: in shogun?20:44
wikingblackburn_: yep!20:44
wikingnot committed yet20:44
blackburn_huh then congrats20:44
wikingi need to clean up the stuff20:44
wikingbut it works!!20:44
wikingwith those examples20:44
wikingthat i've found yesterday20:44
blackburn_visual detection?20:44
wikingfinding mammals20:45
wikingwithin images20:45
blackburn_is it some simple window or that deformable model?20:45
wikingit's just a simple bounding box20:45
blackburn_I see20:45
blackburn_what is on your roadmap next?20:45
wikingbut it depends of course your what's your latent variable...20:46
wikingnow it was just a simple bounding box20:46
wikingwell now it's first cleaning the code up20:46
wikingand commit it to the latent branch20:46
wikingsee the reaction of alex20:46
wikingand if he is satisfied then i can go further improving20:46
wikingone of that would be to integrate a structural svm into it20:46
wikingbut for that i want to clean up the whole thing with qp solvers within shogun that i've promised for sonney2k20:47
wikingand after that comes various improvements to the latent svm solver20:47
wikingand of course testing out some own ideas20:48
wikingi just needed now a framework where i can work with it20:48
blackburn_I see20:48
blackburn_that's nice20:48
wikingok so now back to cleaning up the code20:48
blackburn_do you mind to provide some sliding window genome analysis latent svm?20:49
blackburn_would be cool example too20:49
wikinggive me a dataset :D20:49
blackburn_I am not the expert you know :)20:49
wikingi think i saw a paper that has been investigating this20:49
wikingi'll check20:49
wikingbut yeah this most definitely will need some basic and some very complex example in shogun to demonstrate it's 'power'20:50
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harshit_hey n4nd0, hows everything going !21:52
n4nd0harshit_: hey! pse, just fine, preparing some exams21:52
n4nd0harshit_: what about you?21:52
harshit_same here, practical exams :(21:53
harshit_hate microwaves21:53
harshit_n4nd0, Did no programming at all for last 5 days :(  feels as if I am disconnected from the shogun world,lol21:54
n4nd0haha not good21:55
blackburn_n4nd0: it looks like my defensive speech on databases make you a little quiet :D22:01
n4nd0blackburn_: :P yeah I don't complain about it any more22:01
gsomixblackburn_, hey. do you want to solve some optics problems for me? :]22:22
blackburn_gsomix: yes of course22:22
blackburn_I like optics pretty much22:22
blackburn_that's my favourite area22:23
gsomixblackburn_, orly?22:23
blackburn_oh I like it so much22:23
blackburn_gsomix: do you really think I understand anything?22:26
blackburn_I hardly passed exam I'd say22:26
n4nd0blackburn_: I think you forgot to set your *ironic* flag :P22:26
blackburn_n4nd0: irc doesn't support this yet :D22:26
gsomixblackburn_, yes! I think you have solved all problems from Irodov. :]22:27
gsomixhehe, blackburn_ optics is pass/fail exam?22:28
blackburn_gsomix: yes22:28
gsomixI have mechanics, computer networks and linux programming as pass/fail exams.22:31
n4nd0linux programming, that looks like a cool course22:33
gsomixI don't think so22:33
n4nd0gsomix: really? The name looks promising :)=22:37
gsomixthis course is about files (open, r/w, chmod) and inter-process communication: pipes, shared memory.22:37
gsomixit's a good stuff22:37
gsomixbut course is boring22:37
n4nd0it looks like my operative systems course22:38
n4nd0gsomix: do you know what is the worst part of that course in my university? We have to do it in Plan 922:38
gsomixn4nd0, wow, why?22:39
blackburn_my memory is strange sometimes - I associate plan 9 with 'gayniggers from the outer space'22:40
* gsomix thinks, that glenda is nya-nya-nya ^__^22:40
n4nd0gsomix: the teacher's answer is that it's because linux man pages are unreadable and senseless stuff like that22:40
n4nd0gsomix: from my point of view, the reason is that they make research using that OS22:40
n4nd0blackburn_: yeah, I think the name comes from a film named like that22:40
blackburn_not really like that22:41
blackburn_but the original one right?22:41
blackburn_something from the outer space22:41
blackburn_I do notremember exactly22:41
blackburn_but gayniggers is actually way more funnier22:41
gsomixblackburn_, I have not watched this movie yet. :(22:42
blackburn_your life is meanless thing then22:42
n4nd0two people with meaningless lives then here :D22:43
n4nd0ah and another thing that made me laugh a lot22:43
gsomixn4nd0, huh. it could be minix, for example :)22:43
n4nd0they told me yes but with acme (one of plan 9's editor)22:44
n4nd0you can go pretty fast using the mouse and the chords22:44
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n4nd0and I was like wtf ... I try to minimize the # times I move my hands from the initial position on the keyboard22:45
n4nd0and you telling me this ...22:45
gsomixn4nd0, nice course :]22:48
n4nd0gsomix: I like it quite a lot, the only part I don't like that much is Plan 9, but is ok22:48
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puffin444woah hey23:04
puffin444Forgot I was IRC23:04
puffin444on IRC23:04
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