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@sonney2kblackburn, morning08:14
blackburnsonney2k: morgen08:14
blackburnsonney2k: or even ?????? ????!08:14
blackburn:D08:14
@sonney2kso we are ready right? all that is left is run the make release script08:15
blackburnsonney2k: can you take a look on content_sensor.py in msplicer?08:15
@sonney2kblackburn, unfixable...08:15
blackburnsonney2k: I didn't manage to get it back to work08:15
blackburnsonney2k: ah okay then we should be ready08:15
@sonney2kjonas/gunnar did hardcore changes but never cared to update msplicer (actually model retraining needed...)08:16
@sonney2kblackburn, make release is running...08:21
blackburnsonney2k: okay nice08:21
blackburnsonney2k: what are working hours for you?08:21
blackburn8.00 - 17.00?08:21
@sonney2kabout that08:22
@sonney2knot before 8:30 though08:22
blackburnI see08:22
blackburnI now understand why you get tired so 'early'08:22
blackburnhere most of developers get to job not before than 10.30 :D08:24
@sonney2kargh out of mem error compiling octave...08:25
@sonney2kdo they have kids?08:25
blackburnsonney2k: yes, 70% of them have08:25
@sonney2k*argh* I have to run make release from home... that just takes too long. so feel free to craft some announcement email etc08:28
@sonney2kor even edit the website :)08:28
blackburnsonney2k: what is ETA?08:28
blackburnI will kruft an announcement08:29
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sonne|workwhen I am home... not so early today09:01
blackburnsonne|work: want to read announcement?09:03
sonne|workblackburn: I don't mind09:08
sonne|workblackburn: btw did you fix static tests yet?09:08
blackburnargh09:09
blackburncompletely missed09:09
blackburnsonne|work: draft of an announcement is in your mail09:13
sonne|workI would then say I run make release tonight once you fixed the static tests :)09:15
blackburnsonne|work: yes makes senes09:15
blackburnit is easy to fix09:15
blackburnsonne|work: ahh we were asked to update features table09:20
sonne|workwe don't have it09:20
sonne|workon the new website09:21
sonne|workactually they should edit the google document and we need to tweak our script...09:21
blackburnsonne|work: did you like the announcement? :)09:54
sonne|workblackburn: I didn't receive anything yet09:55
blackburnehm09:55
blackburnmy gmail went crazy09:55
sonne|work?09:59
sonne|workok received09:59
sonne|workwill send you  an update09:59
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yoohi all10:24
blackburnhi10:24
yoohow are you10:25
yooit has been a week almost !10:25
blackburnheh fine, what about you?10:25
blackburnyoo: we are preparing for release btw10:25
yooblackburn: nice10:41
yooblackburn: last week I came here to report a bug with MKL. With basic example, it seems that with p-norm >= 1, somthg wrong appended. Did som1 reproduce it ?10:42
blackburnyoo: no not really10:43
yoocould it be usefull that I re-share the code to reproduce the bug ?10:43
sonne|workyoo: what happens?10:51
blackburnyoo: yes please10:53
blackburnokay I have to go to university10:53
yoosonne|work: hi. here is a sample code http://pastebin.com/E8rvpVPx11:06
sonne|workyoo: what is the problem?11:06
yoosonne|work: the problem is when p-norm is >= 1. then depending on the order you call the cker->append(kernel) method then the results chenge and are wrong11:07
sonne|workyoo: which solver?11:07
yoofor example, in this case poly kernel should be assign to a small weight but placing it at the first place give 80% of the weights11:08
yooMKLMulticlass (based on GMNPSVM Multiclass SVM ?)11:08
sonne|workyoo - does that happen with p-norm = 2 too?11:08
yoosonne|work: yes11:09
yoowhat other mkl solver can I test ?11:09
sonne|workyou don't happen to have cplex?11:10
yoono I dont have cplex11:11
yoocould it be a normalization step missing ?11:12
sonne|workyoo: well try with 3 gaussian kernels first11:13
sonne|work(instead of your linear / poly)11:13
sonne|workthen you will know11:13
yoop=1 weights=[0.689040809888890382,0,0.310959190111109618]11:15
yoop=1.5 weights=[0.807664115129075988,0.372230937235915327,0.130329256359283385]11:15
yoop=1.5 (again and changing the order) weights=[0.760197211045205989,0.350354701974430915,0.256375284234867218]11:16
sonne|workplease use p=2 for testing here11:17
yoop=2 weights=[0.920187257990366603,0.347798092036156359,0.179699464128804831] (3 gaussian kernels)11:18
yoop=2 weights=[0.882496058989740262,0.333552157868777399,0.33157753821490854] (another run, changing kernels order)11:18
sonne|workyoo: so what worries you is that changing order of kernels doesn't change weights in the same way right?11:19
yooyes, and first kernel always get almost 0.911:20
sonne|workyoo: it may happen though that weights change - however objective should not change. so either run things with debug output11:20
sonne|workor print the objective at the end11:20
yooobjective ?11:21
sonne|workyoo: if you put that first kernel last?11:21
yoothat's what I have done in the previous example (p=2)11:22
yooI tried also with 20 kernels and the first one get 0.8 and all the others 0.0111:22
yooeven when I place the last kernel in the first place, he get 0.8%11:23
sonne|workyoo: please run11:27
sonne|workcompute_mkl_primal_objective()11:27
sonne|workcompute_mkl_dual_objective()11:27
sonne|workand print these numbers (after mkl got trained)11:27
yoocompute_mkl_primal_objective() or compute_mkl_dual_objective() are not in the MKLMulticlass class ?11:30
sonne|workah mkl multiclass...11:42
yooyea (..) testing things on digits11:44
sonne|workyoo: then no idea - you should ask alex when he is around (or directly per mail + cc mailinglist)11:50
yooallright. thx.11:51
yoocould you give me his mail ?11:51
sonne|workAlexander Binder <alexander.binder@tu-berlin.de>11:54
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sonne|workhey CIA come back13:43
sonne|work!13:43
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blackburnargh QA go crazy16:01
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n4nd0Release day!16:06
sonne|workit is16:40
sonne|workn4nd0: think about how to improve the website...16:41
n4nd0Ok16:42
sonne|workn4nd0: the front page is mostly OK I would say but the rest needs some thought16:48
blackburnsome guys insulted my gf on street, was hunting for them a hour ago :D16:55
sonne|workblackburn: hope they won't have a chance to do that again :-D17:14
blackburnsonne|work: I am not a big fan of street fighting so I hope too17:15
sonne|workblackburn: see your mail17:15
sonne|workgtg now17:15
blackburnsonne|work: yes17:16
blackburnI saw am intue ago17:16
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blackburnhere I come18:10
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puffin444sonney2k, am I holding the release up?19:06
puffin444blackburn, how is the release going?19:09
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n4nd0puffin444: I think all the examples are fixed19:15
n4nd0jus the msplicer application is not working quite well19:15
n4nd0but sonney2k said it is kind on "unfixable" right now19:15
puffin444n4nd0, will this be a rc or is this an actual release?19:16
n4nd0actual release I think19:16
puffin444as in going gold19:16
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blackburnsonney2k: ping20:13
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@sonney2kblackburn, back!20:40
blackburnsonney2k: okay last things to do20:40
blackburndo not make release yet - I am checking tester ow20:41
@sonney2kblackburn, hurry up...20:41
blackburnjust a few minutes20:41
blackburnI am done with mail though20:41
blackburnokay octave static20:42
@sonney2kblackburn, ok 5 minutes then we start no matter what20:44
blackburnsonney2k: strangely it works here20:45
blackburnbut not on buildbot20:45
@sonney2kblackburn, what does not work20:45
@sonney2k?20:45
blackburnsonney2k: http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/518/steps/test%20octave_modular/logs/stdio20:45
blackburncannot create instance, etc20:45
blackburnno errors like that here20:46
@sonney2kblackburn, that is octave modular or?20:47
blackburnsonney2k: static20:47
@sonney2kno20:47
@sonney2kmodular20:47
@sonney2krunning tests20:47
blackburnehm20:47
blackburnah20:47
@sonney2kblackburn, well fix it - but I am running make prepare release again......20:48
blackburnsonney2k: nevermind it is a developer stuff20:48
blackburnand only two developers care about that actually20:49
blackburnso just do it20:49
@sonney2kblackburn, did you commit any changes?20:49
blackburnsonney2k: when?20:49
blackburnno commits today20:49
@sonney2kblackburn, so it is the state of yesterday?20:49
blackburnyes20:50
@sonney2kblackburn, no fixes in static interfaces right?20:50
@sonney2knah whatever - it won't get better than that.20:50
blackburnsonney2k: do you think modular octave is broken at all?20:50
blackburnI thought only tester20:50
@sonney2kblackburn, no20:50
@sonney2kmake check-examples works it seems20:50
blackburnthen I don't care20:50
blackburnsonney2k: can you give me twitter acc?20:51
@sonney2khmmhh my make release script is still b0rken20:51
@sonney2kyes (not from here though)20:52
@sonney2kI am at c-base.org20:52
@sonney2kpublic wlan...20:52
@sonney2klots of haXX0rs20:52
blackburnwhere are you?20:52
blackburn:D20:52
@sonney2kgoogle c-base :)20:53
@sonney2kthe hidden starship beneath Berlin20:53
blackburnno I mean where are you hiding as you have to use some wlan?20:53
@sonney2ksitting at the river spree with lots of nerds it seems20:54
blackburnis it a good weather in berlin? I wouldn't want to be outside here now :)20:54
blackburnsonney2k: can I update news still?20:56
@sonney2kyeah about 18 C or so20:56
blackburnor late?20:56
@sonney2kblackburn, we have to increase data version btw!20:56
@sonney2kto 0.420:56
blackburnwhere is it set?20:56
blackburn:D20:56
blackburnahh I remember20:56
@sonney2kblackburn, how much do you want to change in NEWS?20:57
blackburnsonney2k: add a line20:57
@sonney2kblackburn, then do it *right away*20:57
blackburnand change version20:57
@sonney2kdo do do20:57
@sonney2khurry up man20:57
blackburnaaaaaah where is the data version?20:58
blackburnis it mentioned anywhere?20:58
blackburndo we have to increase parameter version?20:58
blackburnokay no20:58
blackburnnevermind20:58
blackburn:D20:58
@sonney2kNEWS first line20:58
blackburnyes yes20:58
blackburnsonney2k: here20:59
CIA-35shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r6f2b362 / src/NEWS : Increased data version and mentioned yoo in news - http://git.io/ndAtSw21:00
CIA-35shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r601c72a / src/ChangeLog : updated changelog - http://git.io/sUlDow21:03
CIA-35shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rc3d2cb3 / (4 files): updated reference documentation - http://git.io/x3GdVg21:03
blackburnsonney2k: what is going on?21:27
@sonney2kblackburn, few more minutes21:28
@sonney2kmake update-webpage is running21:31
@sonney2kblackburn, what was the name of the math latex thing?21:34
blackburnsonney2k: mathjax21:34
blackburnsonney2k: sooooo?21:39
@sonney2kuploading takes time...21:42
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@sonney2kblackburn, alright - checkout shogun-toolbox.org21:49
@sonney2kblackburn, I will put the new site live though...21:49
blackburnnice21:49
@sonney2kblackburn, we need to update NEWS before 3 am21:50
blackburnsonney2k: why?21:53
blackburnsonney2k: I talked to some of scikits team21:53
blackburnthey are releasing just now too21:53
@sonney2kblackburn, gunnar is here (for a visit from NY)21:56
blackburnin germany?21:56
blackburnsend hello21:56
@sonney2kblackburn, we are just installing a new buildslave for centos21:56
blackburn:)21:56
@sonney2kyes sitting here too21:56
@sonney2krelease party you know ;-)21:56
blackburngute nacht gunnar :)21:56
@sonney2kblackburn, gunnar says hi too :D21:56
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blackburnsonney2k: if you get some champagne please convince him to make me his PhD student :D21:57
blackburnsonney2k: so can I send announce?22:01
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@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, force build "rpm1 - libshogun"22:06
shogun-buildbotbuild #0 forced22:06
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes22:06
shogun-buildbotbuild #0 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed git]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/022:06
@sonney2kblackburn, no - I want to make the new website live before22:06
blackburnsonney2k: how much time it would require?22:07
@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, force build "rpm1 - libshogun"22:07
shogun-buildbotbuild #1 forced22:07
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes22:07
shogun-buildbotHey! build rpm1 - libshogun #1 is complete: Retry [retry exception slave lost]22:15
shogun-buildbotBuild details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/122:15
shogun-buildbotbuild #2 forced22:15
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes22:15
blackburnsonney2k: any progress? :)22:18
@sonney2kblackburn, http://shogun-toolbox.org/22:19
@sonney2kwe should fix the website though...22:19
blackburnsonney2k: what's wrong?22:19
@sonney2kwell buildbot / doc links don't work NEWS file is still wrong blah22:21
blackburnI see22:21
blackburnlet me know when I can send an announcement :)22:21
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bern4rdHi sonney2k , is the sqlite3 database working good now?22:24
@sonney2kbern4rd, did you fix it up?22:26
bern4rdyes, the same night you told me22:26
@sonney2kblackburn, so docs should work again http://shogun-toolbox.org/doc/en/latest/22:27
@sonney2kbern4rd, didn't know...22:27
bern4rdmy fault, I didnt tell you.22:27
@sonney2kblackburn, buildbot too22:28
blackburnsonney2k: sooooo?22:32
@sonney2kblackburn, click around on the website and notify me about issues22:33
@sonney2kn4nd0, and you too!22:33
n4nd0sonney2k: all right22:33
@sonney2ktry to download shogun etc this stuff22:33
blackburnsonney2k: news are old still22:33
@sonney2kbern4rd, how do I update the NEWS thing?22:33
@sonney2kheh22:33
n4nd0weblog doesn't show anything here but I think that is normal, the draft page was like that too22:33
blackburnsonney2k: can you remove mobile version thing?22:34
bern4rdwrite the xml with the new in the folder and the next time someone uses /home url will be loaded22:34
@sonney2kbern4rd, how?22:34
@sonney2kblackburn, bern4rd any idea where that mobile version thing is?22:35
shogun-buildbotbuild #2 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/222:35
bern4rdno, was in nuvio template, I suppose is for a mobile application, or a special web for mobile devices22:35
n4nd0blackburn: should we worry about these failures?22:35
blackburnoh22:36
bern4rdthe search box was also in nuvio template22:36
CIA-35shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r2064bf4 / (Makefile src/NEWS): update news for 2.0.1 - http://git.io/aC9KzQ22:36
n4nd0sonney2k: the link available in the contact tab links to the home page, I guess it should go to shogun-toolbox.org/irclogs22:37
bern4rdI didnt change them because i didnt know if you want to do anything with that or can be removed from the html22:37
blackburnsonney2k: what is rpm1? it fails22:37
@sonney2kn4nd0, no it is new buidbot for redhat (we just set up!)22:37
n4nd0sonney2k: the link is called "available", it was not clear ^22:37
n4nd0sonney2k: better then :)22:37
@sonney2kbern4rd, how do I create the XML for the news file?22:38
blackburnsonney2k: !!! release!22:39
blackburn:D22:39
bern4rdyou have several models in /data/news/22:39
bern4rdthis is the last new : https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-web/blob/master/news/2012/2012-09-0122:40
@sonney2kbern4rd, yeah but how do I create that file?22:41
bern4rdIs just a text file22:42
@sonney2kbern4rd, so?22:42
bern4rdyou dont need special names, but anyway i am using the date22:42
@sonney2kbern4rd, I thought this is generated from the NEWS file?22:43
bern4rdyou mean the news file with all the news that is in github?22:43
shogun-buildbotbuild #412 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test octave_static]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/412  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>22:44
bern4rdi am missunderstanding anythin22:44
@sonney2kblackburn, please point bern4rd to the NEWS file22:45
blackburnbern4rd: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/master/src/NEWS22:47
bern4rdNo, I am not using that file.22:50
bern4rdDid you want to modify the NEWS file, and upload the database?22:51
bern4rdI mean to only modify the github file22:52
blackburnsonney2k: announcement?22:52
shogun-buildbotbuild #413 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/41322:56
blackburnsonney2k: !!!22:56
shogun-buildbotbuild #3 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>22:58
blackburnsonney2k: I can't wait so much :)23:00
@sonney2kbern4rd, blackburn sorry got disconnected23:13
blackburnsonney2k: announcement!23:14
@sonney2kso how do I get the NEWS file converted?23:14
blackburnshall I send it?23:14
blackburnI have to go sleep23:14
n4nd0sonney2k: I am here too :(23:14
@sonney2kn4nd0, did you say anything?23:14
n4nd0I was just joking :)23:15
blackburnI am sending it!23:15
blackburnyou have last seconds to answer23:15
blackburn:D23:15
@sonney2kbern4rd, how did you create all the files in news/ ?23:17
bern4rdI have created the files in shogun-web with your NEWS file. But I did it manually.23:17
@sonney2kbern4rd :(23:17
@sonney2kthat is what I was looking for23:17
@sonney2k*manually*23:17
@sonney2knot a good thing23:17
@sonney2kwe need this automatically...23:17
@sonney2kanyway will do it manually now too23:18
@sonney2kbern4rd, when I just update the 2012-09-01 file - will it work?23:21
bern4rdYes, I understand now what you mean. When I arrive to Stockholm (Friday) I will try to change it to do it automatically. But I remember not all the news had the same format, and is better to parse something with xml format for example that parse from normal text files23:21
bern4rdyes23:21
@sonney2kbern4rd, hmmhh they should all have the same format23:22
@sonney2kat least for the last years they should have the same23:22
bern4rdI saw that you changed the time-zone to Berlin zone, I hope it wont be a problem23:22
@sonney2kwhy?23:22
bern4rdyes the last years yes, the problem in the format is at the beginning23:22
@sonney2kbern4rd, well then just parse the first ones...23:23
bern4rdoks.23:25
blackburnokay I can't wait longer23:26
blackburn:)23:26
@sonney2khmmh website broken23:27
blackburngott!23:27
blackburnwtf?23:27
@sonney2khmmhh http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/about/information works23:28
@sonney2kbut not the / url23:28
@sonney2kbern4rd, any idea why http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/home/ fails but all other pages work?23:30
@sonney2ktemplate error?23:30
@sonney2klet me enable debug23:30
bern4rdThere is a problem in the server23:31
@sonney2kbern4rd, http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/home/23:31
@sonney2kplease have a look23:32
@sonney2kwhat did I do wrong in the news file?23:32
blackburnsonney2k: something unclosed I guess23:32
bern4rdyes23:32
bern4rdin the file you modified, there is any problem23:33
blackburngive me that file I'll fix it!!23:33
blackburn:D23:33
bern4rd28:5123:33
bern4rdline and column23:33
@sonney2kbern4rd, the & ?23:34
blackburnsonney2k: it is a special symbol23:34
blackburntry &amp23:35
blackburnworks23:36
blackburnI am announcing then23:36
blackburnn4nd0: can you please post to twitter?23:39
blackburnhttp://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.machine-learning.shogun/306023:39
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blackburnheiko: we've kinda released23:40
heikoblackburn, just saw the mail!23:41
heikonice work!23:41
n4nd0blackburn: from my account? or from shogun's?23:41
n4nd0I don't have shogun's account password23:41
blackburnn4nd0: check mail you have23:41
heikoI love this epic "new features" list23:42
blackburnheiko: yeah pretty big23:42
blackburnheiko: sonney2k is setting up a website23:43
blackburnheiko: are you in timeline with your thesis?23:43
heikoblackburn, of course not :D23:44
heikoI am late and working all day23:44
heikowant to hand in on thrusday and deadline is friday23:44
blackburnheiko: ohh23:44
heikobut it will be fine23:44
blackburnokay nice23:45
heikoI will send it to you once its done :)23:45
blackburnn4nd0: thanks23:45
blackburnheiko: I will read it! :)23:45
heikothe NIPS paper is also accepted btw :)23:45
blackburnoh so you have a nips paper?23:45
blackburnlucky one ;)23:45
blackburnI have ???????????? ?????? paper23:46
blackburnand nothing more23:46
blackburnokay congrats with release I have to go sleep23:46
blackburnlet's try to spread news about release tomorrow :)23:47
n4nd0blackburn: :)23:48
n4nd0good night!23:48
blackburngood night guys23:48
heikogood night!23:48
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@sonney2kso did blackburn announce?23:50
heikosonney2k, yes he just did23:50
@sonney2kk23:50
@sonney2khad to say bye to gunnar23:50
@sonney2kheiko, btw we just discussed the 'e.V.' thing23:50
heikosonney2k, aha! what came out?23:51
@sonney2kand one likely situation is that I visit him in NY23:51
@sonney2khe likes it23:51
@sonney2kheiko, question is - do we need some notar or something at the meeting?23:51
heikono23:51
heikowe dont23:51
@sonney2kI mean we can easily get >7 people in a room and decide about the satzung etc23:51
heikoone thing that nobody is sure about is if the meeting can be done online23:51
@sonney2kbern4rd, btw download links are not available for shogun-data!23:52
heikophysically in a room?23:52
@sonney2konly for shogun src code23:52
@sonney2kheiko, yes... gunnar said there are quite a bit of shogun users in NY :D23:52
heikosonney2k, well this is nice then23:52
heikoIf you want, I can set up a document once I am finished with uni stuff here23:53
bern4rdtrue, i'll add it23:53
heikosonney2k, what do you think about the email of the KDE president?23:53
@sonney2kheiko btw when did you edit NEWS?23:53
@sonney2kjust now?23:53
heikohe kind of said they usually discourage people from starting a e.V. because of the workload23:53
heikosonney2k, just tried a few minutes ago23:54
@sonney2kheiko, yeah seen that23:54
@sonney2kheiko, please try again...23:54
@sonney2k(though it is automatically updated...)23:54
@sonney2kheiko, how much work is it really?23:54
@sonney2kI thought one needs 'just' yearly rechenschaftsbericht?23:54
heikosonney2k, the documents are easy, yes that yearly thing23:55
@sonney2kI mean writing the satzung is a one time thing23:55
heikoand we need to take care of money and stuff23:55
@sonney2kbut then?23:55
@sonney2kwhat does one have to do?23:55
heikoand getting the "geminn?tzig" from the finanzamt is kind of hard23:55
heikogemeinn?tzig23:55
@sonney2kheiko, which is not a burning topic though23:55
@sonney2kheiko, for this year we should route the money through you -23:55
heikotrue23:55
@sonney2kis that OK?23:55
heikoyeah thats fine23:56
@sonney2kheiko, I will need you bank account, address and everthing...23:56
@sonney2kfor google23:56
@sonney2kotherwise that won't work out23:56
heikoI think its fine, I will check with my ensurance but I think its ok23:56
@sonney2kheiko, please do ASAP ... I am not even sure if it is not too late yet23:56
heikowell, ok23:57
heikotomorrow then23:57
n4nd0sonney2k: can we upload photos to twitter?23:57
heikosonney2k, still same error on webpage23:57
@sonney2kheiko, regarding e.V. we need to find out what one has to do...23:57
heikoI already checked23:57
heikoWrite the Satzung23:57
@sonney2kheiko, what did you change?23:57
@sonney2kheiko, ok that one is clear23:58
heikojust added23:58
heikoFramework for statistical hypothesis testing with algorithms for kernel  based two-sample and independence testing by Heiko Strathmann23:58
@sonney2kheiko, no that is too late23:58
heikoapart from that we  need to do the meeting23:58
@sonney2kyou have to put it in shogun git NEWS23:58
heikosonney2k, ah ok, no chaning of existing news?23:58
heikook23:58
@sonney2kexactly23:58
heikosonney2k, I sent you thi page with all the templates23:59
n4nd0good night guys23:59
heikogood night n4dn023:59
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@sonney2kI should better head home too... weill be back in a few minutes once in train...23:59
@sonney2kbrb23:59
heikook23:59
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