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shogun-buildbotbuild #270 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/27003:34
blackburnsonney2k: good09:10
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n4nd0sonney2k, blackburn: we talked last week about meeting this evening again right?16:19
n4nd0I recall something about it16:19
blackburnn4nd0: ha, yes probably16:19
n4nd0blackburn: nice, I will be around here then from 22:00 or a little bit before16:20
n4nd0blackburn: http://google-opensource.blogspot.se/ have you seen the post about B-trees?16:22
blackburnno, let me read it16:22
blackburnquite nice16:23
blackburnn4nd0: if we used maps in tapkee I'd give it a go :)16:24
blackburnn4nd0: have you ever seen result of embedding promoter data?16:27
n4nd0blackburn: no, how is it?16:28
blackburnin the plots_and_benchmark folder16:28
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n4nd0blackburn: let me see16:28
blackburninteresting fact that 2d embedding that is computed by LLE reproduces one real axe - GC content16:28
blackburnn4nd0: let me compute and I will show a pic16:29
n4nd0blackburn: ok16:29
n4nd0I don't see that directory ^16:29
blackburnn4nd0: JMLR/plots_and_benchmark in your dropbox16:30
n4nd0aaah ok dropbox, I was looking in github :D16:31
n4nd0blackburn: maybe I missed it16:42
n4nd0is the plot around?16:43
n4nd0ok, sorry :)16:43
blackburnn4nd0: I tried first time without optimizations16:44
blackburnmore than twice slow16:44
blackburnn4nd0: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10139213/ml/promoter.png16:46
blackburnn4nd0: the x has R=-0.98 with GC%16:47
blackburnGC is {# of {G or C}} divided by total number of nucleotides in chain16:47
blackburnGC content is*16:47
blackburnI was surprised to see that but bioinformatics elders said it is expected16:48
n4nd0mmm I see16:48
n4nd0I don't understand much about biology :S16:48
blackburndo you think I do?16:49
n4nd0blackburn: hehe you know a lot about a lot ;)16:50
blackburnI somehow manage to let people think I do :D16:51
n4nd0ok gtg now, tty later16:52
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sumithey blackburn , my apologies , could not get much time today , am ready with the blueprint for how to implement rbm , however!17:34
sumitblackburn i was wondering if you could provide me with your email address,so that I could mail you the proceedings for this in future17:35
blackburnsumit: hey17:35
blackburnyou could use the mailing list or lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com17:35
sumitblackburn are you there?17:38
sumitso well,,I was wondering how may I discuss the proceedings with you , should get better if I get to have your email address17:39
blackburnhmm yes, use the mailing list or my email lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com17:40
blackburnthe mailing list is better for something that is going to be public17:40
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sumitI am sorry blackburn , I had lost the connection,may I have your email address again,I ll be mailing you the format in a couple of minutes17:48
blackburn(08:40:12 PM) blackburn: hmm yes, use the mailing list or my email lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com17:49
blackburn(08:40:25 PM) blackburn: the mailing list is better for something that is going to be public17:49
sumitcool got it ! I just wanted you to approve of the format first hence wanted to get to you at your email address,I shall try coming up with the code in aweek's time17:51
sumitthanks :)17:51
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n4nd0blackburn: so what do you think about the workshop program?21:02
blackburnn4nd0: I don't know.. I am ok with it anyway :)21:02
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blackburnthe christian21:03
cwidmerhi all21:03
cwidmerwhat's going on?21:03
n4nd0hi cwidmer! how is it going?21:03
blackburnnothing to be honest21:03
cwidmergoing alright, tons of stuff to do21:03
cwidmerjust moved into a new place21:04
n4nd0cool, in NY?21:04
blackburncwidmer: we should talk altogether with n4nd0 about tapkee stuff I think :)21:04
cwidmercloser to work, nicer view21:04
blackburndo you have some time?21:04
n4nd0I have it :)21:04
cwidmerwell, not too much, but I can do 15min21:04
cwidmerhow about the workshop meeting?21:05
cwidmerdidn't we agree on... now?21:05
n4nd0I have no idea if we were supposed to meet at 21 or 22 (local time)21:05
blackburnsonney2k: ping21:05
cwidmerah, ok21:05
@sonney2kblackburn, pong21:05
blackburnsonney2k: meeting!21:05
@sonney2kI have no news - will have a phone conf next week with gunnar about the WS21:06
@sonney2kbut IMHO what we have is perfectly fine21:06
@sonney2kand people expect some minor changes to the program anyways21:06
blackburnsonney2k: I added that Q about skills21:06
blackburncheck that out21:06
@sonney2kblackburn, btw - we should ask about the level of participants21:06
blackburncwidmer: n4nd0 too21:07
n4nd0blackburn: checking, the form right?21:07
@sonney2kI missed the c-base meeting. Next is on the 14th21:07
blackburnI added 4 possible answers21:07
blackburnn4nd0: yes21:07
blackburnright after institution IIRC21:07
@sonney2konly interesting question would be if alexlovesdata would manage to get TU booked for some hands on days21:08
n4nd0sonney2k: exactly21:08
n4nd0blackburn: I think the form is looking good21:08
blackburnwell if all of you think so lets post it massively starting from some day and let me answer mails21:09
n4nd0blackburn: the new Q it is not as particular as I think sonney2k (e.g. have you trained any SVM/GP), but I think it is good like this too21:09
cwidmerblackburn, can you show the form?21:10
n4nd0blackburn: count on me to share the load of answering if it becomes too much ;)21:10
cwidmerhow much will it cost for participants?21:10
blackburncwidmer: here you go https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEFoS0Q2U19qYkdjT2VReFNvNDBoclE6MQ21:10
n4nd0cwidmer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEFoS0Q2U19qYkdjT2VReFNvNDBoclE6MQ21:10
n4nd0blackburn: you are the fastest around here :P21:10
cwidmeragain, for what would you like to discuss I would really link add something like (unconference style) with a link to wikipedia21:11
blackburnI do not understand that much21:11
cwidmerok, so no news otherwise sonney2k?21:12
blackburncwidmer: what should I add?21:12
cwidmerWhat do you want to discuss? --> What do you want to discuss (unconference session (link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference)?21:13
cwidmerunless this is the podium discussion21:13
cwidmerI mean we have two discussion sessions, I guess21:13
cwidmerone podium21:13
blackburnokay let me do that21:13
cwidmerone in small groups21:13
cwidmernot sure, which one you're referring to21:13
blackburncwidmer: okay added21:16
@sonney2kIMHO we should discuss once I had this call with gunanr21:18
@sonney2kcwidmer, knows how hard it is to catch gunnar these days...21:19
@sonney2kcwidmer, btw did you tell him?21:19
n4nd0everyone gone here? :D21:23
cwidmerjust talked to gunnar21:24
cwidmerand he says yes(*)21:24
cwidmer(*) details have to be figured out, especially wrt preparation time for slides etc21:25
cwidmersonney2k ping21:25
@sonney2kcwidmer, ?21:27
@sonney2kanyway no news from my side so I will keep you updated once I have more21:27
cwidmerok, great21:27
@sonney2kblackburn, btw we should use our shogun-ws mailinglist for QA21:27
cwidmerso gunnar is in21:27
blackburnsonney2k: I am ok with it21:28
@sonney2kas in everyone can send an email to this address and any of us can reply21:28
@sonney2k(using this address as from:)21:28
blackburnsonney2k: but actually we should go away from mailing list21:28
cwidmerlet me know once everything is settled, so we can start advertising21:28
n4nd0blackburn: why so? going away from mailing list21:28
blackburnto something stackoverflow like21:28
blackburncomparing to something SO-like it is impossible to find something discussed on mailing list21:29
blackburncwidmer: yes21:29
cwidmerI know the guy, btw21:29
cwidmermet him at pydata21:29
cwidmerI mean, we could monitor sites like that for a shogun tag21:30
@sonney2kblackburn, just google shogun toolbox stackoverflow21:31
@sonney2kanyways cu guys I need some rest21:32
n4nd0sonney2k: night21:32
n4nd0cwidmer, blackburn : so let's talk about tapkee for a little while?21:36
blackburnn4nd0: chris said to me already that he is busy till 13th21:38
cwidmern4nd0, I have an important deadline coming up, but after that I'm willing to help you guys push this out21:39
n4nd0blackburn: during these days I will update the web info about PCA and KPCA21:39
n4nd0cwidmer: cool21:39
blackburnhmm that's nice n4nd0 - I'd appreciate help with website21:40
n4nd0cwidmer: good luck for you deadline btw! (I am guessing some paper submission)21:40
cwidmerit's a contribution to a vapnik 75th birthday "book"21:42
cwidmerpaper collection21:42
blackburnn4nd0: cwidmer: so I do benchmarks again21:43
blackburnput them to table21:43
blackburnthen once cwidmer has more spare time we pass through paper21:44
blackburnand then submit21:44
n4nd0it sounds like a good plan21:44
n4nd0I am off for a shower, I will be back later21:48
cwidmerok, guys, I'm off21:52
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wikingsorry guys i was so out for these 2 months but had some family stuff going on + writing papers. buuuuut now it's shogun time22:55
blackburnwiking: hey23:29
blackburnis it better?23:29
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