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shogun-buildbotbuild #336 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/33604:21
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n4nd0sonney2k: it seems to be important that both admin and backup admin have updated their profile in melange, have we already done that?08:44
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blackburnn4nd0: what's that about admins?09:04
Yanglittlehey, Is it implemented the L1-norm mkl in shogun? I read the mkl_multiclass.m file, it needs to provide the weights for each kernel.09:05
n4nd0blackburn: Gary Bradski sent a reminder today to GSoC's ML09:05
n4nd0blackburn: let me show you09:06
n4nd0blackburn: http://pastebin.com/RUpGrBfp09:06
blackburnn4nd0: alright thanks09:07
blackburnn4nd0: I think I have updated my profile but not sure what it means :D09:07
n4nd0blackburn: hehe I am not sure either09:07
@sonney2kn4nd0, I think I did it too.09:07
@sonney2kn4nd0, could you please check out http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2012_ideas / etc09:07
blackburnat least I converted my profile to mentor/admin09:07
n4nd0I guess it should be enough to log in in there and check that your profile has your name and so09:07
blackburnfrom student09:08
n4nd0sonney2k: 2012 or 2013 ideas?09:08
@sonney2kn4nd0, I've updated the css to look more stylish. please check if links are ok / it looks better09:08
@sonney2k2012 & 1109:08
blackburnYanglittle: yes we do have L1 MKL09:08
n4nd0aham ok09:08
n4nd0sonney2k: so the problem with those pages is that some links fail09:08
@sonney2kn4nd0, please fix them then09:09
n4nd0sonney2k: check for example the first two links in GSoC 2012 pages09:09
n4nd0GSoC 2011 ideas gets back to homepage09:09
YanglittleI mean it can't learn the weights automatically?09:09
@sonney2kn4nd0, yeah please put a proper link there09:09
n4nd0sonney2k: ok09:09
@sonney2kn4nd0, I just see that we even have a wrong link on the front page %-/09:09
n4nd0sonney2k, blackburn : we really need to polish http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013_ideas09:10
@sonney2kn4nd0, click MORE on the middle box09:10
blackburnYanglittle: no, why? it could learn the weights09:10
@sonney2kn4nd0, we will do today09:10
n4nd0good!09:10
n4nd0sonney2k: btw I have an X-file here09:13
n4nd0for some links, it doesn't matter how hard/how many times I try to define it as "open in this window/frame"09:13
n4nd0it keeps on opening it on a new window09:14
@sonney2kn4nd0, maybe one can do that via css?09:16
n4nd0mmm maybe, no idea honestly09:17
n4nd0sonney2k: I think it is more of an HTML thing09:17
n4nd0an option for the <a> tag09:18
@sonney2kn4nd0, but you have no options in there09:19
n4nd0yes it is actually09:19
n4nd0let me try modifying the HTML from the admin view09:20
n4nd0meh it doesn't really matter09:21
n4nd0I don't know why but the change always reverts09:21
blackburnsonney2k: ModelSelectionParameter("width").as(EXPONENTIAL).from(-10).to(10);09:22
blackburnn4nd0: ^09:22
n4nd0hehe09:22
blackburnwhat do you think?09:22
n4nd0do we have complex numbers there or??09:22
blackburnI came to it when I was setting to sleep last night..09:22
blackburnn4nd0: why?09:22
blackburnexp -10 is real09:23
blackburn:)09:23
n4nd0aham I thought that it should be sth like09:23
n4nd0exp(x) = -1009:23
blackburnModelSelectionParameter("kernel").from(gaussian_kernel,linear_kernel);09:23
blackburnI think that's pretty readable?09:24
n4nd0yes, it is indeed09:24
blackburnsonney2k: n4nd0: concept goes here https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/95909:40
n4nd0blackburn: let's see what Heiko thinks when he comes around?09:41
blackburnyeah09:41
n4nd0he developed the model selection framework right?09:41
blackburnyes09:42
n4nd0API or framework, I use these words too loosely :D09:42
Yanglittleerror: glpk.h from GNU glpk not included at compile time necessary here,,what dir should I put it in?09:52
@sonney2kblackburn, builder pattern :)09:55
@sonney2kblackburn, might be that we could just do that from C++09:55
@sonney2kso it would work for all interfaces09:56
@sonney2kn4nd0, which links are opening new targets?09:57
@sonney2k(and you don't want them to.)09:57
n4nd0sonney2k: http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2012_ideas the two first ones here for example09:58
n4nd0GSoC 2011 ideas and back to shogun tool...09:58
@sonney2kn4nd0, but there is target="_blank" in there09:59
@sonney2kso it is easily fixed09:59
n4nd0sonney2k: hehe try and tell me if you succeed :)09:59
@sonney2kn4nd0, shall I or will you?09:59
n4nd0I have already tried09:59
n4nd0it just reappears09:59
@sonney2kok then let me try09:59
n4nd0maybe I was doing something wrong though09:59
n4nd0I tried both using HTML and the admin GUI interface09:59
blackburnsonney2k: yes that's somewhat like builder but without build09:59
blackburnsonney2k: I see no problem implementing it with swig10:00
blackburnno at all10:00
blackburnYanglittle: is it detected on ./configure?10:00
blackburnhave to go be back soon10:01
Yanglittlemaybe just now it didn't update, I installed again , now it's ok.10:06
@sonney2kn4nd0, interesting. doesn't work here either. I guess it is some tinymce thing10:07
n4nd0sonney2k: aham, it could be10:07
n4nd0it looks like a bug to me though10:07
@sonney2kn4nd0, it indeed is a feature10:09
@sonney2kn4nd0, actually tinymce converts urls even10:10
@sonney2kit can do absolute <->releateive10:10
@sonney2krelative10:10
@sonney2ketc10:10
@sonney2kand it always adds a target10:10
n4nd0ahm I see10:10
@sonney2kI think we should just write _self there as target10:11
@sonney2klet me try10:11
n4nd0but it should be possible to do without opening a new window as well I think10:11
n4nd0aham! ok let's see10:11
n4nd0sonney2k: ok, all the links in GSoC 2012 and GSoC 2011 are well now10:13
n4nd0sonney2k: is there any way we can use the same style in GSoC 2011 and 2012 pages for the new 2013 one??10:14
n4nd0btw you must have like 100 visits to your personal webpage from Sweden today haha10:15
@sonney2kn4nd0, that still opens a new window :/10:16
@sonney2kn4nd0, from you :)10:16
@sonney2kn4nd0, I've found how to do it10:26
@sonney2kn4nd0, click the full screen mode of tinymce10:27
@sonney2kn4nd0, then click the link10:27
@sonney2kthen go to the button with the chain10:27
@sonney2kclick it10:27
@sonney2kand then you get a menu where can configure everything10:27
@sonney2ksame target new target whatever10:27
n4nd0sonney2k: wow, good job!10:28
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n4nd0sonney2k: should I change the two in GSoC 2012 or are you on it?10:34
n4nd0ok you already did it10:40
@sonney2kn4nd0, we need more content everywhere10:44
@sonney2k*sigh*10:44
n4nd0sonney2k: more specifically?10:44
@sonney2kn4nd0, all the stuff / posts we had for gsoc 2011/201210:45
@sonney2kit is gone somehwere10:45
n4nd0sonney2k: aren't those thins in news??10:45
n4nd0I thought so10:45
@sonney2konly that our 'news' is Downloads10:46
n4nd0hehe confusing10:46
@sonney2kn4nd0, could you please remove all these target=_blank stuff in the gsoc2012 / 2011 ideas lists?10:48
@sonney2kn4nd0, you can use the html editor for that now10:48
@sonney2k(I guess copy & paste to vim and paste back is easiest)10:48
n4nd0sonney2k: yes, I think it doesn't look good opening new windows for the links in the ToCs10:49
@sonney2khehe no10:49
n4nd0the other ones through the text are good though10:49
n4nd0sonney2k: how do you mean doing it with vim? I didn't understand10:49
@sonney2kn4nd0, press html knob10:49
@sonney2kthen copy things into vim and paste back10:49
@sonney2kn4nd0, meanwhile I am copying things over from my blog to shogun-toolbox.org10:51
n4nd0ok10:51
@sonney2kn4nd0, oopsy I killed the 2011 content10:56
@sonney2kahh no10:56
@sonney2kstill there10:56
@sonney2kpuh10:56
n4nd0sonney2k: the thing of the links it is not working fine10:57
@sonney2k?10:57
n4nd0it doesn't modify the html I think10:57
@sonney2kn4nd0, did you press update?10:58
n4nd0and once the page is saved again, the links are opening a new window again :S10:58
n4nd0I pressesd saved in the editor10:58
n4nd0the thing is that I don't see any difference in the html code10:58
n4nd0between the links that open new windows and the ones that do not10:59
@sonney2kn4nd0, ???10:59
n4nd0all of them are open in new windows now again though..10:59
n4nd0check the links again10:59
@sonney2kn4nd0, what did you do?10:59
n4nd0you can see that they are opened in new windows (as we didn't want to do)11:00
n4nd0I didn't do anything :)11:00
n4nd0hehe11:00
n4nd0I just opened the change article window once11:00
@sonney2kn4nd0, well it worked here so what did you do ?11:00
n4nd0and pressed save after changing a typo11:00
n4nd0and the links got lost11:00
n4nd0sonney2k: try on your own you can believe me :)11:00
n4nd0fix a link again so it opens in the same window11:00
n4nd0then open the change article again11:01
@sonney2kn4nd0, where did you change a typo?11:01
n4nd0useability -> usability11:01
@sonney2kwhere!11:01
@sonney2kwhich page???11:01
n4nd0http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2012_ideas11:01
n4nd0in the first of the list "Improving accesibility to shogun"11:02
n4nd0but the links above it also screwed then11:02
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@sonney2kn4nd0, please press shift reload on some admin page11:02
@sonney2kyour browser likely cached the .js11:03
n4nd0done11:03
n4nd0shift+F5 several times done11:03
@sonney2kn4nd0, well I just fixed the page ... so it is working11:04
n4nd0let me try modifying gsoc 2012 ideas from the admin interface11:05
n4nd0sonney2k: it is just remove the target="_blank" thingys right?11:05
@sonney2kn4nd0, yes11:07
n4nd0then update in the hmtl then save in the change article page11:07
n4nd0wow it is working fine now, alegria!11:08
@sonney2kn4nd0, as I said you browser cached the .js11:08
n4nd0it'd make sense indeed11:09
n4nd0you are wise :)11:10
n4nd0sonney2k: links in the table of contents are good now11:16
n4nd0sonney2k: btw I think this has to be done through the css; you see that all the info appears sort of framed? But there is no line on the right side of the frames. I think it would look better with it11:17
@sonney2kn4nd0, look at this http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc201111:18
@sonney2kI am a bit lost how we should do things11:19
n4nd0tell me11:19
@sonney2kfor GSoC we should have ideas list (subsubpage), Aftermath and?11:19
@sonney2kwhat troubles me is that for workshop we have somehow11:20
@sonney2kprogram / registration11:20
@sonney2kand a news page11:20
@sonney2kso I would love to have a similar structure for everything now11:20
@sonney2k(all events)11:20
n4nd0mmm I understand11:20
@sonney2kso what should have a subsubmenu?11:20
@sonney2kI mean workshop program / registration is obviously static11:21
n4nd0however I think that since GSoC and workshop are different things, it is ok that they have different number of sub-subpages11:21
@sonney2kgsoc ideas list is too11:21
n4nd0gut I guess we could have11:21
n4nd0the main GSoC 20XX showing something similar to what GSoC 2012 shows now11:21
n4nd0then GSoC 20XX ideas list11:22
n4nd0and then one more called something like blog or news11:22
n4nd0where the stuff like the one you are adding now in main GSoC 2011 appear11:22
@sonney2kn4nd0, so you suggest that this first thing is an overview page only?11:23
n4nd0so my idea is: a short main GSoC 20XX for each and then two subpages with long contents11:23
@sonney2kn4nd0, but how do we structure that with gsoc2013?11:23
n4nd0sonney2k: yes11:23
@sonney2kI mean we have there 'we will apply for 2013'11:23
n4nd0mmm well the news in gsoc 2013 will be empty atm11:23
@sonney2kthen if / once we are in do we add a participation thing on top11:23
n4nd0no, we just modify it11:24
@sonney2kthen basically this entrance page is the news page11:24
n4nd0we are planning -> we are partipating11:24
@sonney2kbut then the old page is lost11:24
n4nd0mm why? we can just modify the name of the article11:25
@sonney2kn4nd0, I mean would you do the same for the workshop? We had there we are planning to have a workshop11:25
n4nd0I see no we are planning to have a workshop11:26
@sonney2kn4nd0, well there is no official announcement11:26
@sonney2kit is just save the date11:26
@sonney2kthere will be an official announcement on top I guess11:26
n4nd0ok11:27
@sonney2kbut I have no idea where that goes11:27
@sonney2ksimples would be to have the entrance page to be a 'news' style page11:27
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n4nd0sonney2k: yes, why not like that?11:27
n4nd0I mean GSoC subpages just with one sub-subpage with ideas11:27
@sonney2kwith items such as 'we are planning to participate' 'we are participating' 'aftermath' 'mentor summit'11:28
n4nd0yes11:28
@sonney2kwe might want to expose aftermath a bit more maybe11:28
@sonney2kso this could go in a separate subsub with some mentioning in the news overview11:28
@sonney2kI am happy with that11:29
n4nd0ok11:29
n4nd0sonney2k: haha btw look at the definition of aftermath given by oxford dictionaries:11:30
n4nd0"the consequences or after-effects of a significant unpleasant event"11:30
@sonney2khaha11:30
@sonney2kI guess we need a positive name then :D11:31
n4nd0haha yeah!11:31
@sonney2kopen for suggestions!11:31
n4nd0let me think of it with google11:31
n4nd0repercussion?11:32
n4nd0no, that one is negative too11:32
@sonney2kwhat?11:32
@sonney2kmy english is worse than I thougth11:32
n4nd0it is pretty similar to Spanish word, that's why I knew it11:33
@sonney2kfollow-up!11:33
n4nd0I don't think so... I hadn't heard aftermath before11:33
n4nd0sonney2k: bingo11:33
n4nd0I imagine google response: Rejected, you consider your experience in GSoC 2011 and 2012 as significant unpleasant.11:34
@sonney2kn4nd0, they might forgive us if we have lots of spelling mistakes in the applicaton ;)11:37
n4nd0sonney2k: there might a trouble if you just call the sub-subpages ideas11:38
n4nd0:%s/might/will11:39
@sonney2kyeah seen that11:39
n4nd0will be*11:39
n4nd0because sub-subpages are still subpages11:39
@sonney2kthe links must include some prefix11:39
@sonney2kbut the name can be the same11:39
n4nd0aham ok11:39
@sonney2kn4nd0, http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc201111:39
n4nd0yeah I am looking11:40
@sonney2kcan we somehow show the Follow-Up article in the GSoC 2011 news?11:40
n4nd0sonney2k: the whole article?11:40
n4nd0or just a link to it?11:41
@sonney2kn4nd0, hmmhh well link to it with some image is also fine11:41
@sonney2kI am just lazy I guess...11:41
@sonney2kn4nd0, could you do that?11:41
n4nd0sonney2k: creating a new article that links to it I guess11:41
@sonney2kI can then continue with 201211:41
n4nd0sure11:41
n4nd0sonney2k: above or below mentor summit?11:42
@sonney2kn4nd0, ?11:51
n4nd0the link to follow-up11:51
@sonney2kahh below11:51
n4nd0ok, give some minutes and I will do it11:51
@sonney2kn4nd0, I've done the same for 2012, could you please also go over this?11:51
n4nd0ok11:52
@sonney2kthanks11:52
n4nd0sonney2k: do you have entries for we are planning to participate, accepted, etc for 2011?11:52
@sonney2kn4nd0, for 2011 not - I wasn't expecting that we get in and so I we don't11:54
n4nd0heh ok11:54
@sonney2kn4nd0, we were rejected in 2010 so :)11:55
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n4nd0sonney2k: take a look please http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2011, http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc201212:31
n4nd0I think the article-link to follow-up 2011 is rather poor12:31
n4nd0I didn't add one for follow-up 2012, I am not sure if it really helps to have it12:31
@sonney2kn4nd0, do we want to use the same style for 201312:32
@sonney2k?12:32
@sonney2kn4nd0, just add some catchy figures (1-2)12:32
n4nd0sonney2k: ok12:32
n4nd0sonney2k: can we use the same style for 2013 ideas?12:33
n4nd0what about the frame issue I told you about12:33
n4nd0in the conclusions 2011 I will add the picture of GSoC 2011 since we don't hvae it anywhere :D12:37
@sonney2kn4nd0, well yeah it is work of course13:08
n4nd0sonney2k: I didn't get you, sorry13:09
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n4nd0I am off for lunch now, see you later13:13
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@sonney2kn4nd0, I meant it is work to put the gsoc'13 ideas in the same form14:16
@sonney2kn4nd0, btw I am clueless why the table border is not shown on the right...14:17
n4nd0too bad14:18
n4nd0sonney2k: what's the correct way of putting gsoc'13 ideas in the same form?14:19
n4nd0is it necessary to re-write all the stuff?14:19
@sonney2kn4nd0, well easiest is just to take the 2012 stuff and fill in the content14:30
@sonney2kyeah14:30
@sonney2kquite some work :/14:30
@sonney2kwe should better do this offline14:31
@sonney2kbecause we have no history in the editor...14:31
n4nd0I see14:33
n4nd0sonney2k: quite some work indeed14:34
n4nd0but idk to re-write one proposal shouldn't take lot of time14:34
n4nd0I estimate no more than 15 min per proposal14:34
n4nd0I think that is a large upper bound14:35
n4nd0we have barely 8 proposals14:35
n4nd0if we are 4 people (you, heiko, blackburn and I) writing them it shouldn't take long14:36
@sonney2kn4nd0, well < 1 hour for all IMHO14:36
n4nd0sonney2k: I think it can be a bit of a pain to do all of them by only one person14:36
blackburnsonney2k: n4nd0: briefly - what is going on?14:39
n4nd0sonney2k: discussing how to put the ideas in GSoC 2013 (http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013_ideas) with the style of 2011 and 2012 pages14:40
n4nd0it seems they must be re-written14:40
n4nd0I mean just moving the content from one place to another14:40
n4nd0I will work on it this evening, blackburn wanna join? :)14:43
blackburnn4nd0: yeah sure14:43
n4nd0blackburn, sonney2k : are we getting new proposals?14:46
blackburnn4nd0: proposals? like?14:46
n4nd0I see we are missing ideas from Igor Carron and Cheng Soon Ong14:46
n4nd0sorry, ideas :)14:46
n4nd0project ideas14:46
blackburnn4nd0: igor ideas are missed14:46
blackburnn4nd0: cheng sent ideas - they are in gdco14:47
blackburngdoc14:47
n4nd0cool14:47
n4nd0about cheng, not the other one hehe14:47
n4nd0integration with mldata and mloss can be taken from previous years14:47
n4nd0but we'd still miss improve static interfaces and interactive demos14:48
blackburnyes mloss is our eternal idea14:49
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tom__hi all14:53
n4nd0hey tom__14:53
tom__Could someone explain me what is the purpose of CAlphabet::translate_from_single_order  methods and "translate" the meaning of the bitwise operations used in it ?14:54
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@sonney2ktom__ sure15:05
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@sonney2ktom__, still interested in the meaning of translate_from_single_order?15:30
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@sonney2kI take that as a no15:50
@sonney2kblackburn, is the structured output learnign proposal already in?16:10
blackburnsonney2k: not really16:13
blackburnsonney2k: I am not sure what to do about that actually16:24
blackburnsonney2k: there is a small description16:24
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blackburnsonney2k: what is left? proposal?17:16
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@sonney2kblackburn, I didn't even have a look yet17:53
blackburnalright17:57
blackburnoops I am late at job, should go home :D17:57
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@sonney2kblackburn, please have a look at the ideas document19:37
blackburnsonney2k: alrighty19:37
@sonney2kI've filled in most stuff19:37
@sonney2kit might still need some polishing but I think it should be put live as is19:37
@sonney2kI've marked in red ideas that are not detailled yet19:38
blackburnoh that's nice19:38
@sonney2kwhat?19:38
@sonney2kI think it is 12-13 ideas or even more19:38
blackburnthat you filled in the stuff19:38
@sonney2kwith 11 mentors19:38
@sonney2k(at least)19:38
blackburnsonney2k: I'll put igor's stuff today once I get some eat19:39
@sonney2kblackburn, did igor contact you?19:39
blackburnsonney2k: nope19:39
blackburnsonney2k: is that holidays in germany these days?19:40
@sonney2keaster friday & monday19:43
@sonney2kblackburn, then maybe it is better to remove igors project from the list?19:43
blackburnsonney2k: makes sense if he won't answer next days19:44
@sonney2kblackburn, well a student needs an answer within a day so this now is not a good sign19:48
blackburnsonney2k: agree19:48
blackburnsonney2k: but within a day is pretty strong requirement :)19:49
blackburnsonney2k: I received an answer from chris in 3 days19:49
blackburnand an answer from konrad in 6 days19:49
@sonney2kwell ok19:50
@sonney2konce gsoc is running that is important though19:50
blackburnoh no19:50
blackburnvice versa19:50
blackburnkonrad 2-3 days19:50
@sonney2kkonrad?19:50
blackburnand chris in 6 days may be :)19:50
blackburnyes I wrote to konrad and chris in 201119:50
@sonney2kblackburn, I am looking at the proposal now19:51
@sonney2kI am tempted to use a lot more stuff from last years proposals19:51
blackburnfeel free to change if you don't like19:51
@sonney2kblackburn, if you have time tonight - please use the 2012 html ideas stuff as a draft and squeeze the 2013 ideas into it19:52
blackburnsonney2k: but do not forget to mention that we are all gsocers except one veteran19:52
blackburnyes I have time19:52
@sonney2kblackburn, that is really important to do now19:53
@sonney2kto let students see what we are up to19:53
@sonney2kand show google that we have a plan(tm)19:53
blackburnyeah google is more important yet19:53
@sonney2kblackburn, put the ideas in the publicity repository19:53
blackburnsonney2k: we lose synchronization this way19:54
@sonney2kno19:54
@sonney2kdrop the gdoc document once done19:54
blackburndo heiko and fernando have access to publicity?19:55
@sonney2kblackburn, they see the webiste19:55
@sonney2kyou can directly put it live from there19:55
@sonney2kyou can use shogun-publicity/website/shogun-toolbox.org/gsoc/ideas-2012.html as a start19:56
@sonney2kblackburn, can I somehow extract the gdoc document? I need to work offline on this19:58
@sonney2k(will be gone in 2 mins)19:58
blackburnI don't know19:58
blackburnextract like?19:58
blackburnyou may export it19:58
@sonney2kyeah found it20:00
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n4nd0SO learning proposal is in20:14
n4nd0I see you discussed about it20:14
n4nd0blackburn, sonney2k : have you guys already starting writing something of gsoc 2013 in html?20:17
n4nd0otherwise I will start it using gsoc 2012 as template and put it in a repo somewhere20:17
blackburnn4nd0: I'll put current ideas to gsoc2012 format tonight20:17
n4nd0blackburn: I can help you out with that20:18
blackburnI am not sure how :)20:18
n4nd0blackburn: I was thinking that we could put the html in a temp repo20:18
n4nd0so we can sync easily20:18
blackburnn4nd0: we have a repo for that :) shogun-publicity20:18
n4nd0blackburn: ook let's put it there then :)20:18
blackburnyeah I will start soon, be back in a few minutes20:19
n4nd0shogun-publicity?20:19
blackburnn4nd0: yeah not sure you have access :)20:22
n4nd0aham it is private one?20:24
n4nd0I don't see it in github20:24
blackburnsonney2k: that's terribly ugly actually to write such htmls20:45
blackburnsonney2k: why do we have libqp again?20:50
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blackburnhalf done21:33
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blackburndone22:26
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blackburnsonney2k: no idea how to refer it though22:28
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n4nd0blackburn: so everything going fine with the doc?22:30
blackburnn4nd0: yeah put it to the repo22:31
blackburnbut I just don't know how to refer it from the website22:31
n4nd0blackburn: I think you can't22:31
n4nd0you have to paste the html in the editor22:31
n4nd0I can do that if you think it is ready22:31
blackburnn4nd0: there are CSS which should be put too - don't know about that22:32
blackburnI think soeren knows a way22:32
n4nd0blackburn: mmm I think the CSS was already handled for all of them22:32
n4nd0maybe you are using a new style or sth22:32
blackburnno there is a custom css22:32
n4nd0let's see what sonney2k says then22:32
blackburnyeah22:32
@sonney2kblackburn, n4nd0 whats the issue?22:41
blackburnsonney2k: I put ideas-2013.html22:41
@sonney2kblackburn, and?22:41
blackburnsonney2k: any way to refer it?22:41
@sonney2k???22:42
n4nd0sonney2k: how to introduce the html there in the website22:42
n4nd0it seems that there is also some css to put in22:42
@sonney2kn4nd0, ahh well just copy and paste it to the thing we have22:43
@sonney2kthat's it22:43
blackburnsonney2k: css?22:43
@sonney2knone22:43
@sonney2kblackburn, shall I do it?22:43
@sonney2kblackburn, if you want to22:43
blackburnsonney2k: yes I am not sure22:43
@sonney2kjust go to admin interface22:44
@sonney2kand then edit the gsco2013 ideas list22:44
blackburnsonney2k: but is gsoc list css there?22:44
@sonney2kpress html22:44
@sonney2k(that will give a a window for editing html source code)22:44
blackburnsonney2k: you must be kidding :D22:44
@sonney2kand paste the table in there22:44
blackburndo you consider me an idiot or what :D22:45
@sonney2kblackburn, ok I am doing it :P22:45
@sonney2kblackburn, yes of course22:45
blackburnthe only thing I am worried is *css*22:45
@sonney2kyou are russian22:45
blackburnand?22:45
@sonney2kand vodka did kill your non-ml brain cells!22:45
blackburnoh well22:45
@sonney2kblackburn, DON"T WORRY ABOUT CSS22:45
blackburnwell it is relevant, not?22:46
blackburnthere is some custom stuff22:46
blackburnwhatever22:47
n4nd0blackburn: I think the idea was to use the same style of gsoc 2011 and 2012 pages for which there is already a CSS22:48
n4nd0blackburn: but maybe we can add the new custom stuff in that CSS somehow22:49
blackburnn4nd0: there is no new stuff comparing to 201222:49
@sonney2kn4nd0, blackburn http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013_ideas22:49
@sonney2kn4nd0, please remove the separate structured output thing22:50
@sonney2kblackburn, one question - it looks completely different to the 2012 thingy22:50
@sonney2kMentor etc are not bold22:50
n4nd0sonney2k: sure, that article is going out now22:50
@sonney2kblackburn, I guess you changed sth?22:50
blackburnsonney2k: no idea may be I mixed that something in the tag forest22:51
blackburnsonney2k: 2012 is not bold too22:51
blackburnsonney2k: it looks completely the same here22:52
@sonney2kblackburn, indeed this stuff never has been bold22:53
blackburnsonney2k: what is different?22:53
@sonney2kapologies22:53
@sonney2knothing22:53
@sonney2kall good22:53
n4nd0blackburn: multple instance learning links to robust classification22:53
@sonney2kblackburn, libqp is in there because nothing is done for that yet22:53
blackburnn4nd0: ok fixing22:54
n4nd0blackburn: aah no wait22:54
n4nd0blackburn: link is fine, it is the title of multiple instance :)22:54
@sonney2kblackburn, we have no interfaces in modular / no general solver framework in shogun22:54
blackburnn4nd0: heh22:54
n4nd0I don't fix it just in case you are also editing - don't want to screw things up22:54
blackburnsonney2k: I see22:54
@sonney2kwhich would be rather cool to have22:54
blackburnn4nd0: yes I'll fix22:54
@sonney2kblackburn, on top it says during summer 2013 ... lala22:55
blackburnsonney2k: fixing it22:56
@sonney2kthe 201222:56
@sonney2kthe text doesn't fit22:56
@sonney2kblackburn, and Reading and writing of shogun features / objects in .hdf5 (pytables/matlab 7.0/matlab 7.X/octave 3.x/h5py/arff) format22:56
@sonney2kshould go away22:57
@sonney2kwe only have that once22:57
blackburnsonney2k: only fast?22:57
n4nd0:D22:58
@sonney2kblackburn, no i is twice in the TOC22:58
blackburnsonney2k: I do not understand22:59
@sonney2kyes that one thing w/o fast can go22:59
blackburnwhat is twice there?22:59
blackburnso fast goes away?22:59
n4nd0the same project I think22:59
@sonney2kthe matlab 7 / etc22:59
@sonney2kno22:59
@sonney2kfast stays22:59
@sonney2kthe other goes22:59
@sonney2kgtg22:59
@sonney2kcu22:59
blackburnI am getting instable22:59
n4nd0blackburn: ok let's get this shit done :)23:00
blackburnlet me update it in repo first23:00
n4nd0blackburn: ok23:01
n4nd0I still don't know about this repo23:01
n4nd0blackburn: so look at the second and fourth projects in "improving accessibility"23:02
n4nd0they look pretty similar23:02
blackburnhttp://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013_ideas23:03
blackburnn4nd0: done23:03
n4nd0nice23:03
n4nd0blackburn: is the picture showing ok there?23:03
n4nd0not here23:03
blackburnn4nd0: no it disappeared23:03
blackburnn4nd0: I have no idea how did I get that damaged23:08
n4nd0let me see the html23:08
n4nd0mmm I don't see anything weird23:09
n4nd0got it23:11
n4nd0try with this path to the image23:11
n4nd0<td><img src="../../../../static/figures/shogun_logo.png" border="0" alt="SHOGUN Logo" width="50" /></td>23:11
n4nd0blackburn: ^23:11
n4nd0I got that from 2011 ideas page23:11
blackburnn4nd0: yeah already found that thanks23:11
n4nd0:)23:12
blackburnn4nd0: http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013_ideas.html okay here the shit comes23:13
n4nd0cool!23:13
n4nd0blackburn: once you get tired of it let me go through it and check for typos if so23:14
blackburnwheen I edit htmls manually I feel my life slips away23:15
n4nd0hehe yeah23:15
n4nd0I was not breathing while doing it this morning23:15
blackburnthe touch of death23:15
n4nd0just in case something could get screwed :D23:15
@sonney2kn4nd0, that is actually what I just did23:17
@sonney2khold breath for as long as possible but under water :)23:17
blackburnwe are the worst web designers ever23:18
n4nd0blackburn: haha23:18
n4nd0sonney2k: why under water? :)23:18
blackburnhttp://www.miauk.com/23:18
blackburnhowever these guys are even worse in web23:18
n4nd0dafuq23:19
blackburnhttp://www.lingscars.com/23:19
blackburnhttp://www.theworldsworstwebsiteever.com/ we should buy that designer23:19
n4nd0we should state that for "Implement estimators of large-scale sparse Gaussian densities" we need jeff dean as student23:19
blackburnyeah jeff dean could be A CANDIDATE23:22
blackburnn4nd0: http://supercreativ.narod.ru/23:22
blackburndesign bureau "creator"23:22
n4nd0wtf23:22
blackburnn4nd0: he wrote - I have a great experience with web - 2 months.23:23
blackburnThat's why I created a web design company23:23
blackburn:D23:23
n4nd0haha23:23
blackburnhttp://www.rasputin.de/CF/Jugend/23:24
n4nd0fuck I have the sound on and woke up my gf23:24
blackburnhah n4nd0 sorry23:24
n4nd0hehe np23:24
blackburnshe must think something bad about you now23:24
blackburnwith that website ope23:24
blackburnn23:24
n4nd0nah sleeping again23:24
blackburnit is better if it was redtube23:25
n4nd0I closed at the moment I opened it23:25
n4nd0haha probably23:25
blackburnthan that crazyness23:25
blackburnn4nd0: it is definitely better to be catched watching gay porno that these sites23:25
blackburnthan*23:26
n4nd0this is looking weird23:26
n4nd0Improving accessibility to shogun by developing improving i/o support (more file formats), machine learning demos, and mloss.org/mldata.org integration.23:26
n4nd0Integration of existing and new machine algorithms.23:26
blackburnn4nd0: what is weird?23:27
n4nd0it says at the beginning that we want to extend the library in three different ways23:27
blackburnah23:27
blackburnn4nd0: yes that's true as there is summer 2012 :D23:28
blackburnokay fixing23:28
n4nd0:)23:28
blackburnupdate23:29
blackburnd23:29
blackburnn4nd0: we have not enough stars and pink color though23:29
n4nd0hehe23:29
n4nd0blackburn: are you editing right now?23:31
blackburnno23:31
n4nd0ok I take the relay now23:31
blackburnI am thinking of clicking my power button in next few minutes23:32
n4nd0that's probably a good idea23:32
n4nd0you wrote all this article - must be tiring23:32
blackburnn4nd0: that's ok when one is on drugs23:34
blackburn:D23:34
blackburnjk23:34
n4nd0haha23:34
@sonney2kn4nd0, some swimming exercise with some trainer pushing us ...23:34
@sonney2kI was barely above water the last 1.5 hrs23:35
n4nd0sonney2k: that's cool23:35
n4nd0swimming is nice23:35
@sonney2kno23:35
n4nd0haha why not?23:35
@sonney2kthat was tough23:35
n4nd0if it is not tough then it is not training :)23:35
@sonney2kI prefer swimming on the surface :)23:36
@sonney2kthere is this big advantage23:36
@sonney2kthere is AIR23:36
n4nd0hehe23:36
@sonney2kjust open your mouth :)23:36
blackburnI am curious if I can swim still23:37
n4nd0sonney2k: so do you train any water sport?23:37
blackburnn4nd0: yes he is dreaming of becoming a whale23:37
n4nd0have you guys seen this btw? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A25VgNZDQ0823:38
blackburnoh hitler is mad on *everything* :D23:38
n4nd0indeed hehe23:38
@sonney2kn4nd0, yeah to both23:39
@sonney2kswimming23:39
n4nd0sonney2k: why so much time under water then??23:39
@sonney2kblackburn, I thought you are the whale so there should be no problem for you to float :D23:39
@sonney2kn4nd0, well todays training...23:39
blackburnsonney2k: why am I?23:39
@sonney2kdive as far as you can then swim the crawl23:40
n4nd0sonney2k: what's your favourite style?23:40
n4nd0I used to enjoy butterfly and breaststroke the most23:40
@sonney2kn4nd0, butterfly is tough23:41
n4nd0yeah23:41
@sonney2kswimming is all about the technique so certainly mine is not optimal for butterfly23:41
@sonney2kI think I would last barely 100m's23:41
@sonney2kblackburn, about the proposal23:42
blackburnsonney2k: what about the proposal?23:42
@sonney2kwe have only 18 hours left right?23:42
@sonney2kI won't have *any* time tomorrow it seems23:42
n4nd0sonney2k: yeah I think so23:42
blackburnyes, would you like to keep asking me each hour?23:42
n4nd019h UTC so that is 18h in Germany/Sweden23:43
blackburnI don't mind putting there some shit tomorrow if you are so busy23:43
n4nd0but are the more things to change??23:43
@sonney2kn4nd0, that was only the ideas list23:43
@sonney2kthere is the proposal too23:43
blackburnn4nd0: well sonney2k wants to rewrite all the proposal as he thinks my writing is soo bad probably23:43
n4nd0I think it was more or less ready (more more than less)23:43
n4nd0aham I see23:44
n4nd0blackburn: then mine is too since I went through it as well :D23:44
blackburnn4nd0: alright you are bad too23:44
blackburnsonney2k: so if there is no chance to fix it by you we'd have to live with current impossibly bad stuff23:45
n4nd0blackburn: one thing, I am editing some minor things using django admin interface in the ideas list so we shouldn't probably edit in that repo you mentioned and copy again23:47
blackburnn4nd0: well may be I'll copy that back23:47
blackburnif format is not ruined23:47
n4nd0ok23:47
n4nd0nah, I don't think so. Just adding some carriage return here and there for the moment23:47
n4nd0I get a little it picky :D23:48
blackburnn4nd0: I mean is not ruined by these copy-paste perturbations and django23:48
n4nd0oh all right23:48
@sonney2kblackburn, could you please send around an email to all mentors with the current ideas list?23:48
@sonney2kit is mostly ready I guess23:49
blackburnsonney2k: yes23:49
blackburnsonney2k: is vojtech in still?23:50
@sonney2kthey should get a chance to have a final look and potentially suggest changes23:50
@sonney2kblackburn, yes23:50
@sonney2klibqp23:50
n4nd0we have 14 ideas in there! that's nice23:52
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