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shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 914e85a / doc/ipython-notebooks/ica/bss_audio.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/914e85abf2d32fd18a17307168314acc9cbbf8a900:38
shogun-notifier-shogun: Separate fix markdown cell in bss_audio notebook into two cells00:38
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shogun-notifier-shogun: so that the small description shown in the webpage is not too long00:38
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 303809f / doc/ipython-notebooks/ica/bss_audio.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/303809f484f37c5c8335915722cc559676e0e70100:38
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1746 from iglesias/develop00:38
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Separate fix markdown cell in bss_audio notebook into two cells00:38
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@iglesiasgwiking, sonney2k, hey guys, a question about the notebooks and the webpage00:39
@iglesiasgso if I update one of the notebooks shown in http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/documentation/notebook00:39
@iglesiasgas I have done with the abstract of one of the ICA notebooks00:39
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@iglesiasgwhat needs to be done so that it gets updated in the website?00:40
@iglesiasgpickle271, hey there! How are you doing?00:40
pickle271good man!00:40
pickle271just finished moving to Ottawa Canada00:40
pickle271got internet setup in my new apt this morning00:40
pickle271starting work tomorrow!00:40
@iglesiasgpickle271, started the new job already?00:40
@iglesiasgnice then!00:40
@iglesiasgpickle271, btw, I did a tiny mod in one of your notebooks00:41
@iglesiasgpickle271, see here http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/documentation/notebook00:41
@iglesiasgthe BSS audio one had a little bit long abstract to be shown in the website00:41
@iglesiasgso I have basically divided that markdown cell into two cells00:41
@iglesiasgpickle271, hope there is no problem for you with that!00:41
pickle271ahh cool00:41
pickle271looks good!00:42
@iglesiasgall right00:42
@iglesiasgno idea when it will get updated in the website though00:42
@iglesiasgwith any luck it will happen after the nightly build00:42
pickle271yeah the release looks good!00:42
pickle271I hope to have time to do some shogun stuff in a 2 weeks or so00:43
pickle271I have a fun example project in mind!00:43
@iglesiasgcool00:43
@iglesiasgwhat is it about?00:43
pickle271still a wip00:43
pickle271basically making a basic AI for mario kart using some vision and ml00:44
@iglesiasgoh, it sounds challenging!00:44
@iglesiasgso nice :)00:44
pickle271yeah i dunno if it will go anywhere I've just been playing around00:45
pickle271I have the framework setup00:45
pickle271now I need to do the actual machine learning part00:45
@iglesiasghow is the ml part?00:46
@iglesiasgI mean, what data to use and what is the objective of the ml module00:46
pickle271not totally sure yet, I was actually going to see what people thought was best00:46
pickle271I basically have a data set that is the frames of the game and what a user (aka me) was doing on the gamepad at that time00:47
pickle271and thats all I have done00:47
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@iglesiasgI see00:47
shogun-buildbotbuild #274 of osx1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx1%20-%20libshogun/builds/274  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>00:48
lisitsynoh guys never go to computer vision00:48
lisitsyn:D00:48
pickle271I saw a really old video / paper on NNs that did something similar with a real car00:48
lisitsynstupid amount of time tuning parameters and stuff argh00:48
pickle271it only drove like 15 Km per hour though00:48
pickle271lisitsyn: haha I know, I kept trying to drift my MASc over to ML00:49
lisitsynpickle271: I am still working on that shit remember?00:49
pickle271lisitsyn: yeah I do, man that sucks00:49
lisitsyneverything is overdued arght00:49
lisitsynhowever I resolved most of the issues00:49
pickle271lisitsyn: also in CV there is this nagging notion of - should I make this whole alg better or should I add a special case to deal with this particular problem00:50
@iglesiasgpickle271, yeah, it also reminds me about sth Ng did with an helicopter that could fly upside down00:50
lisitsynpickle271: apparently that shitloader is moving with up to 20 degree angle00:50
pickle271iglesiasg: yeah, its deffs been done before00:50
lisitsynso I had to ouhhuh00:50
pickle271iglesiasg: but no one has opened up their framework00:50
lisitsynpickle271: for now I am using sobel response to maintain background model :D00:51
lisitsynapparently it is better00:51
pickle271iglesiasg: so exposing the problem in terms of input and output is my main goal, not performance00:51
@iglesiasgpickle271, I see. In any case, it would be something interesting to work on, and really cool results very likely!00:51
pickle271lisitsyn: cool, I'm not familiar with that technique in that context00:51
lisitsynpickle271: well just MOG2 from opencv on top of sobel00:52
lisitsynpickle271: somehow it works :D00:52
pickle271lisitsyn: that makes some sense actually00:52
lisitsynpickle271: the problem is that it outputs a bunch of points00:52
lisitsynI mean no strong areas00:52
lisitsynso camshift will come mad00:52
lisitsynI just fit a rectangle00:52
lisitsynI am afraid it is not robust enough but trainset works..00:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 91a70c6 / doc/ipython-notebooks/ica/bss_image.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/91a70c672873a7d24b367b7a6324b04b4e2e2acb00:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix two tiny typos in BSS image notebook00:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 9361cab / doc/ipython-notebooks/ica/bss_image.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9361cab7db278fe40a2b96da023ddccc1ab5658c00:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1747 from iglesias/develop00:53
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix two tiny typos in BSS image notebook00:53
pickle271lisitsyn: thats all you can do00:54
pickle271lisitsyn: the trainset I mean00:54
lisitsynpickle271: yeah but trying to keep in mind other cases00:54
lisitsynwhen e.g. a man walks here00:54
lisitsynno idea how would it work00:54
pickle271lisitsyn: I was working on an industry project and they never gave us data, so we had to keep trying to make our own that fit their use case00:54
pickle271project crashed and burned00:54
lisitsynhaha00:55
lisitsynpickle271: no these guys gave me a lot of data00:55
lisitsyn2.8 gb of videos00:55
lisitsynpickle271: I feel pretty guilty because they consult me when I ask and etc00:55
lisitsynbut I still overdue that shit :D00:55
@iglesiasgall right guys, time to sleep for me00:55
@iglesiasgsee you tomorrow!00:55
lisitsyniglesiasg: good night!00:55
pickle271iglesiasg: night00:56
@iglesiasgpickle271, good luck with the new job!00:56
pickle271iglesiasg: thanks!00:56
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pickle271oh beans00:56
pickle271meant to ask him about his google interview00:56
lisitsynpickle271: whom?00:56
pickle271iglesias00:56
lisitsynah00:56
pickle271I'll catch him later00:57
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/1345146201:38
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sonne|osxuhh la la la09:12
lisitsynsonne|osx: la la la uhh!09:13
@iglesiasgyou in France guys? :)09:16
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lisitsyniglesiasg: JA09:28
lisitsyn:)09:29
@iglesiasgoui then :D09:29
lisitsyniglesiasg: NEIN :D09:35
lisitsyniglesiasg: have you seen 'predator' tracker?09:36
@iglesiasglisitsyn, nope09:36
lisitsyniglesiasg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhNXHCQGsM09:36
lisitsyniglesiasg: it learns the appearance of object to support further tracking09:37
@iglesiasglisitsyn, cool stuff09:39
lisitsyniglesiasg: don't know whether it is state of the art still though09:39
lisitsyniglesiasg: but the idea is here now09:39
@iglesiasgI think the fact that it can change from tracking one thing to another so quickly is advanced stuff09:40
@iglesiasglike he gave the bounding box and started tracking another thing09:40
lisitsyniglesiasg: yeah it is pretty much advanced09:40
lisitsyniglesiasg: but I like the idea actually09:41
lisitsynwhen you maintain a model09:41
@iglesiasgit is open source09:45
lisitsyniglesiasg: yeah with crazy amount of matlab code :)09:51
sonne|osxas usual09:51
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besser82lisitsyn: shouldn't it be easy to run MatLab-code with Octave?!?10:28
lisitsynbesser82: yes why not10:28
lisitsynbesser82: I meant matlab = unreadable :D10:28
besser82lisitsyn: Ahh  ;)10:28
lisitsynand like matlab software ~ bad designed software10:28
besser82lisitsyn: I have a personal matlab to python compiler  :-P10:29
besser82lisitsyn: btw. Marburg University starts dropping Matlab  ;)10:30
besser82lisitsyn: replacement:  Pyton + Scipy10:30
lisitsynbesser82: that's the human way to do science10:30
besser82lisitsyn: :D10:31
besser82lisitsyn: They actually dropped it because of increasing license-fees :-P10:31
lisitsynbesser82: that's ok too, no matter how they come from the dark side :D10:32
besser82lisitsyn: XD10:33
besser82lisitsyn: Or or like Uncle Wong says:  Da FOSSSSSSSS iz da so mut beeeeedaahhh  ;)10:34
lisitsynbesser82: foss be good10:35
lisitsyn:D10:35
besser82lisitsyn: btw. I just engaged an "Applied Physics BSc." for optimizing the SVM^bright algos  ;)10:36
lisitsynbesser82: how?10:37
besser82lisitsyn: He's a friend of mine from the Fedora community and I asked him to do the sucking work  :-P10:37
lisitsynahh10:37
lisitsynbesser82: do you want to release it standalone too?10:38
besser82lisitsyn: Like "Hey Budyy!  Ya know about SVM^sh*t?  I wanna make a FOSS alternative which is much better, but need someone to look if there's room for optimazation in algos"10:38
besser82lisitsyn: Yes10:39
lisitsynbesser82: as shared lib?10:39
besser82lisitsyn: I actually planned it to be a C++ shlib && cli-tools10:39
besser82lisitsyn: with the possibility to dlopen custom-kernels through a factory  ;)10:39
lisitsynbesser82: I see10:40
besser82lisitsyn: and possibly some Cython-style Python-module10:40
lisitsynbesser82: I actually would like to see shogun using some libs10:41
lisitsyninstead of being thaat gigantic10:41
besser82lisitsyn: me too  ;)10:41
lisitsynmay be liblinear should be 'fixed' that way too10:41
besser82lisitsyn: What's the beef with liblinear?10:41
besser82lisitsyn: I'm maintaining that for FC10:42
besser82lisitsyn: and have good connection to upstream  ;)10:42
lisitsynbesser82: well usual liblinear doesn't support that 'coffin' thing10:42
lisitsyni.e. callback dot and add operations10:42
lisitsynthey act like it is dense10:42
besser82lisitsyn: I see; so it was customized by S?ren, rye?10:43
lisitsynyeah10:43
lisitsynbesser82: multiclass was customized by me10:43
lisitsyniirc10:43
besser82lisitsyn: Lemme see, if can get a patch set upstream  ;)10:43
lisitsynbesser82: do you know its developers?10:43
besser82lisitsyn: Yeah, not in person. but yes10:44
lisitsynbesser82: we can prepare a patch and propose10:44
lisitsynI have no idea whether sonne|work proposed it before10:44
lisitsynprobably they know about that way10:44
besser82lisitsyn: And it shouldn't be much diffcult for me to get it in, with me wearing my "RedHat"  :-P10:44
lisitsynbesser82: if it was shared library I wouldn't mind if we used linking10:45
lisitsynno idea what others think10:45
lisitsynbut I believe it is better10:45
besser82lisitsyn: liblinear Makefile builds a shlib by default  ;)10:45
lisitsynbesser82: well yeah I mean 'proper' shlib ;)10:46
sonne|workbesser82: it is not easy to do that with liblinear but possible - in the end you need to boil down all liblinear operations into dot, dense_dot, add_to_dense_vec such stuff10:46
lisitsynwhich can be used easier10:46
sonne|workrather similar to what ocas does10:46
besser82lisitsyn: I see.  So heavy API / ABI changes?10:46
lisitsynsonne|work: do you think it is better to have multiple shlibs around?10:46
lisitsynbesser82: well yeah some changes10:46
sonne|workin addition one would need to register print and error functions, malloc/free/calloc functions etc10:47
lisitsynah yeah10:47
sonne|worknot easy but surely possible10:47
besser82sonne|work, lisitsyn: Who will dooooo it?10:47
lisitsynbesser82: actually that's their drawback10:47
lisitsynI mean when you develop a library10:47
lisitsynyou should think of providing that callbacks :D10:48
lisitsynbesser82: I am still unavailable but I want to do that some day10:48
sonne|workbesser82: what is their incentive to provide a framework like this or even to accept patches like this?10:48
sonne|workI don't see it happening10:48
lisitsynyeah I am afraid of that too10:48
lisitsynI see it is much easier to just maintain a fork of liblinear10:49
besser82sonne|work, lisitsyn: I can possibly get that stuff into SVM^bright as well ;)10:49
lisitsynwith such changes10:49
besser82sonne|work, lisitsyn: If that would make sense?10:49
lisitsynbesser82: no idea!10:49
sonne|workbesser82: it is work no idea who will do it10:49
lisitsynbesser82: as for svm bright - please keep everything callbacked' :)10:50
besser82lisitsyn: Sure ;)10:50
lisitsynmalloc/print/data access10:50
lisitsynerrors too may be10:50
besser82lisitsyn: I actually planned to setup a nice class-based API/ABI  ;)10:51
sonne|workthere is some update_linear component stuff in svm light which we have heavily changed10:51
sonne|workall far from easy to migrate even w/ a clean API10:51
besser82lisitsyn: So full controll for your code  ;)10:51
besser82lisitsyn: and some nice exception handling in case of problems  ;)10:53
lisitsynbesser82: yeah10:53
besser82lisitsyn: Everything in fully transparent  ;)10:55
besser82lisitsyn: providing easy-all-in-one-calls && advanced its-all-up-to-you-headers  ;)10:56
lisitsynbesser82: haha too much marketing already ;)10:57
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thoralfHey.11:53
besser82thoralf: Hall?chen  :D12:05
thoralfGuten Morgen :)12:06
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Abhinav_where can i find the shogun source14:40
Abhinav_if i want to work on it as a project14:40
Jaggedhttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox14:43
sonne|workwiking: when I fiddle around in the shogun-cloud template - how could I install it later?14:43
@wikingsonne|work: commit it and let me know... but i still need to sync14:52
@wikingbut never mind14:52
@wikingjust do it in the repo14:52
@wikingand i'll fix it then14:52
sonne|workwiking: ok14:52
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sonne|osxwiking: jinja2.exceptions.TemplateNotFound17:37
sonne|osxTemplateNotFound: bootstrap_responsive.html17:37
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@wikingsonne|work: wrong version of flask-bootstrap17:57
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besser82wiking: Yo!20:34
besser82wiking: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4032#comment:620:34
besser82wiking: c-a has been fixed in meaning of storage  :)20:34
@wikingok so now it's already there?20:35
besser82wiking: /dev/vdb is up and just needs formatting && fstab :D20:35
@wikingbesser82: shall i do it?20:35
besser82wiking: if you want  :)20:35
@wikingok20:36
@wikinglet's see20:36
@wikingfdisk :)20:36
besser82wiking: or sfdisk or parted  :-P20:36
@wikinghehehe done with fdisk :P20:36
@wiking/dev/vdb1              63    52428799    26214368+  83  Linux20:36
@wikingshould be good20:37
besser82sonney2k, sonne|osx, sonne|work: Yo!  :D  Do you have a minute?20:37
besser82wiking: +1  :D20:37
@wikingbesser82: where should i mount it?20:37
besser82wiking: I'd use /srv20:37
besser82wiking: because of selinux  ;)20:37
@wikingbesser82: in /etc/fstab is it ok if i refer to it by /dev/vdb120:38
@wikingor should it be UUID?20:38
besser82wiking: Like you want  ;)20:38
besser82wiking: shouldn't change20:38
besser82wiking: but with autocheck enabled  ;)  like ...  1 1$20:38
@wiking/dev/vdb1        25G   44M   24G   1% /srv20:39
besser82wiking: and don't forget to `touch /.autorelabel && reboot`20:39
besser82wiking: to make selinux happy20:39
@wikingeh?20:40
besser82wiking: this will make selinux restore all default context on new mounted fs  ;)20:41
besser82wiking: and reboot20:41
besser82wiking: or shall I do just quick?20:42
@wikingbesser82: yeps20:43
besser82wiking: allrighty  :D  You will be logged out in a second  ;)20:44
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@wikingi think i've logged out before20:49
@wikingbesser82: let me know when it's back20:49
@wikingah ok it's back20:51
@wikingcool20:51
besser82wiking: Everything is fine?20:52
@wikingseems like20:53
besser82wiking: for me too  ;)20:53
@wikingok now we have to figure out how to share container instances between nodes :P20:58
@wikingbut since docker uses aufs20:58
@wikingwe can just use the diff of the container image20:58
@wikingi.e. the changes since it got fired up20:59
@wikingand that cannot be toooo much20:59
@wikingi.e. couple of megabytes20:59
besser82wiking: I'm afraid AUFS and selinux don't play nice with oneanother  :(20:59
@wikingmmm well i guess we'll have to try :P21:00
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taylanHi everyone..I got a couple of small questions about training a classifier with shogun..21:21
taylan- 1. Do I need to scale the features I provide?21:22
@wikingtaylan: 1) depends on the classifier you are trying to use. but as a general rule of thumb it's worth to try scaling21:23
taylan2. Is there a module which optimizes kernel parameters, or should I write a wrapper around the crossvalidation evaluator to optimize the choice of kernel parameters?21:23
@wiking2) modelselection should do this for you21:23
taylanThanks wiking!21:23
@wikingnw21:23
taylanI will check the model selection..21:23
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@wikingawfully quite here in shogunland since release :P22:25
lisitsynwiking: see you in february :D22:48
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@wiking:D23:20
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