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@HeikoSlisitsyn: jo00:19
@HeikoSaround?00:19
@HeikoSsonney2k: hi00:19
lisitsynHeikoS: yes but was heading to bed00:20
lisitsynHeikoS: whats up?00:20
@HeikoSlisitsyn: quick question00:20
@HeikoSI got a friend who is interested in helping us during GSoC00:20
lisitsynoh cool00:20
@HeikoSmostly for community managment00:20
@HeikoSthat is: polishing the wiki00:20
@HeikoSorganising things00:20
@HeikoSmaking sure we communicate well00:20
@HeikoSlisitsyn: problem is00:20
lisitsynoh that's pretty good00:20
@HeikoSwiki access only can be gratned with full write access00:21
@HeikoSand everything else is annoying00:21
@HeikoS(sending changes per email, or other)00:21
@HeikoSas wiki doesnt allow for PRs00:21
@HeikoSother option is to make the wiki publicly editable00:21
@HeikoSbut thats not good either00:21
@HeikoSlisitsyn: got any suggestion?00:21
@HeikoSlisitsyn: she doesnt want to change code anyways, so I thought of just adding to the team and she only touches the wiki00:22
@HeikoSbut not optimal00:22
lisitsynHeikoS: I see you created Wikiers team00:22
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yeah00:22
lisitsynI was thinking if that's possible with teams00:22
lisitsynbut not sure00:22
@HeikoSbut no use00:22
@HeikoSno I dont think so00:22
@HeikoSsince we dont have a seperate repo for the wiki00:23
@HeikoSor do we have that?00:23
lisitsynno00:24
lisitsynit's no repo I think00:24
@HeikoSlisitsyn: so what to do?00:24
@HeikoSlisitsyn: add with full push rights? do via email?00:24
@HeikoSI kind of want to give away polishing the wiki00:24
lisitsynactually not use github wiki :D00:24
@HeikoSnot put every change in myself, then no time is saved00:24
@HeikoSlisitsyn: how easy is it to migrate?00:25
lisitsynhard00:25
@HeikoSlisitsyn: ok then no00:25
lisitsynand no good alternative I can see00:25
lisitsyn:)00:25
lisitsynok ok00:25
lisitsynjust a second00:25
@HeikoSok00:25
lisitsynHeikoS: is write permission good?00:25
lisitsynor it is admin?00:25
@HeikoSI think write should be ok00:25
@HeikoSdont you think?00:25
lisitsynyes00:26
lisitsynRestrict editing to users in teams with push access only.00:26
lisitsynPublic wikis will still be readable by everyone.00:26
lisitsynok write permission is more or less ok00:26
lisitsynadmin is a bit more dangerous you know00:26
@HeikoSI know00:26
@HeikoSwhole point why I ask ;)00:26
lisitsynok then probably I don't mind..00:26
@HeikoSdo you think I can just go ahead without chasing everyone first?00:26
@HeikoSasking for opinion?00:27
lisitsynyeah I think it is ok, not sure anyone is bothered a lot00:27
lisitsynoh have you seen they added protected branches00:27
lisitsynto avoid push force00:28
@HeikoSi invited00:28
@HeikoScan you help me with that?00:28
lisitsynI protected master and develop00:28
@HeikoSsee the team page00:28
@HeikoSok thats good00:28
@HeikoSso no push -f00:28
lisitsynyes this will not work00:29
lisitsyneven if you're write accessed00:29
@HeikoSok00:29
lisitsynok00:29
lisitsynin teams we have00:29
lisitsynwikiers - write access00:29
@HeikoSany idea how to allow the wiki team write access00:29
@HeikoSok00:29
lisitsynI just added that00:29
@HeikoSso anyone who I put in there will be able to write wiki00:29
lisitsynshould work I believe00:29
@HeikoSand to push changes00:29
@HeikoSbut no push -f00:29
lisitsynyeah00:29
@HeikoScool00:30
@HeikoSthanks00:30
lisitsynso even malicious thing won't happen00:30
lisitsynwell some bad commit but no lost history00:30
@HeikoSpush can still happen00:30
lisitsyn:)00:30
@HeikoSsee gunnar00:30
@HeikoSyeah agreed00:30
lisitsyneasy to repair00:30
lisitsynok easier00:30
lisitsynnot that easy :)00:30
lisitsynok so lea?00:30
@HeikoSyes00:31
@HeikoSlets see how that goes00:31
lisitsynyeap00:31
@HeikoSI have the hope to outsource some of the million things I have to do during gsoc00:31
@HeikoSlike someone to read the wiki pages and update00:31
@HeikoSor make sure they make sense00:31
lisitsynHeikoS: is she going to be at irc?00:31
@HeikoSor actually play user for the GSoC projects00:31
@HeikoSyes Ill get her there00:31
lisitsynok cool00:31
lisitsynit is still the main thing for me00:31
@HeikoSsame here00:32
@HeikoSgunnars thing wasnt good00:32
lisitsynmailing list is slow and heere we can decide things00:32
@HeikoSpush based00:32
@HeikoSI agree00:32
lisitsynok lets see how it goes00:32
@HeikoSgreat00:32
@HeikoSthanks for you help and feedback00:32
@HeikoSlooking good our application00:33
@HeikoSI will add one more project that sonney2k actually agreed to mentor00:33
@HeikoSon approximate kernel methods ;)00:33
@HeikoShaha00:33
lisitsynno worries00:33
@HeikoSand I might have  tensorflow project as well00:33
lisitsynyeah thats cool00:33
lisitsyntensorflow..00:33
lisitsynyeah we can use that00:33
lisitsynok have to go00:33
lisitsynsee you00:33
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@HeikoSlisitsyn: hi16:44
lisitsynHeikoS: hey16:47
@HeikoSlisitsyn: got a minute?16:47
lisitsynyeap16:47
lisitsynsure16:47
lisitsyneven a few16:47
lisitsynworking day today but a bit more calm16:47
lisitsyn:D16:47
@HeikoSnice16:48
@HeikoSlisitsyn: ok so cookbook16:48
@HeikoSI dont know if you saw this:16:49
@HeikoShttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Google%20Summer%20of%20Code%202016%20Projects16:49
@HeikoSI had the idea of making the cookbook an additionaal project that is tackled jointly16:49
@HeikoSso we need a few things16:49
@HeikoSfirst is a description (I will do that)16:49
@HeikoSbut then we want the thing to get ready so that we can easily accept patches for it16:49
@HeikoSlisitsyn: so wanted to ask what we need for that in your eyes16:50
@HeikoSwe kind of want to be careful that if we get 100 contributions for it, that we dont have to touch them again at some later pojnt16:50
@HeikoSlisitsyn: how to ensure what?16:50
lisitsynok let me check16:52
lisitsynHeikoS: cookbook is sphinx, right?16:53
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yes16:53
@HeikoSfeature branch also16:53
lisitsynok ok16:55
lisitsynHeikoS: cross review?16:55
lisitsynlike in coursera?16:55
lisitsynHeikoS: we can ask for reviewers somewhere16:56
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yoyo16:57
@HeikoSsorry door16:57
lisitsynnp16:57
@HeikoSlisitsyn: review is just the same as last gsoc16:57
@HeikoSwe ask them to try each others stuff and suggest improvements16:57
@HeikoSand we make pairs16:57
lisitsynyes16:57
@HeikoSbut that is not the new thing16:57
lisitsynwe can make not pairs16:57
lisitsynbut 1-N16:58
lisitsynOvA16:58
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yeah also possible16:58
lisitsyn:)16:58
@HeikoShaha ;)16:58
@HeikoSIf they know svm16:58
@HeikoSbut about the cookbook16:58
@HeikoSlisitsyn: lea might prganise that one16:58
lisitsynok so what do you want to ensure?16:58
@HeikoSso that someone tracks that people actually do stuff there16:58
@HeikoSAnd also for entrance task16:58
@HeikoSso it should be easy to add something and things shoudl be in place16:59
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@HeikoSlisitsyn: this is what I want to discuss16:59
@HeikoSah speaking of the devil16:59
@HeikoSlisitsyn meet leagoetz who is the wiki mastermind now16:59
lisitsynleagoetz: nice to meet you16:59
lisitsynthat's great you want to help because we are all too busy/lazy17:00
lisitsyn;)17:00
@HeikoShaha, mostly lazy17:00
leagoetzhi there17:01
leagoetzlisitsyn: good to meet you :)17:02
lisitsynsooo HeikoS you want to enforce that they do this thing?17:02
@HeikoSlisitsyn: if they dont do it, leagoetz fails them  ;)17:03
@HeikoSlisitsyn: no idea really17:03
leagoetzI could do that :)17:03
@HeikoSmore like encourage them to17:03
@HeikoSyou know its actually a cool thing17:03
lisitsynyeap17:03
@HeikoSone can think about which methods to add, learn a bit, try things17:03
@HeikoSand then if we have some sort of weekly meetings on this, where we track things17:03
@HeikoSI think that should be motivation enough17:03
@HeikoSjust need someone  to actually run after ppl17:04
@HeikoSlisitsyn: for me the question is more about actually making it easy to contribute to the cookbook17:04
lisitsynah that's technical17:04
@HeikoSso that is feels exciting, rather than annoying17:04
lisitsynbut should be a bit pushed forward17:04
lisitsynit works now but there is no instruction I think17:05
@HeikoSyep17:05
@HeikoSlisitsyn: what about structuring things17:05
@HeikoSlisitsyn:  there is a couple of things relevant here:17:05
@HeikoSmeta-example dir structure17:06
@HeikoSthe rst-pages should probably mimic that17:06
@HeikoSso maybe we can prepare that already17:06
@HeikoSit is just adding two files really to controbute17:06
lisitsynyes makes sense17:06
@HeikoSand really important to have all tags in place17:06
@HeikoSlike the automatic links to shogun docs17:07
@HeikoSso that we dont have to touch 100 rst files after we added that17:07
@HeikoSlisitsyn: same goes for links17:07
@HeikoSlisitsyn: we should think what feature we want to put in cookbook17:07
lisitsynHeikoS: what feature do you mean?17:08
@HeikoSe.g. plots?17:08
lisitsynah ok17:08
@HeikoSlisitsyn: do we want that17:08
lisitsynplots are tough..17:08
@HeikoSor just plain API cookbook17:08
@HeikoSmaybe we can keep the notebooks for that17:09
lisitsynI think it should be simplest possible thing17:09
lisitsynyes17:09
@HeikoSok17:09
lisitsyncomplex stuff goes to notebook17:09
@HeikoSlisitsyn: what about links and shogun doc references17:09
lisitsynit can render tables and plots17:09
lisitsynI should integrate this ctags thing17:09
lisitsynbut maybe we can enforce that explicitly17:09
lisitsynwith some syntax to mention the class17:09
@HeikoSlisitsyn: is automatic maybe better?17:10
@HeikoSbut then how to detect it17:10
@HeikoSso tag might be better17:10
@HeikoSsame with link17:10
@HeikoSlisitsyn: maybe you can focus on that?17:10
@HeikoSIll do some re-structuring17:10
lisitsynyeah I can try to arrange some time for that17:10
lisitsynnot sure yet when17:10
lisitsynHeikoS: you could go with creating some structure17:11
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yeah will do17:12
@HeikoSI will then try to write an example patch,17:12
@HeikoSwill send an example PR17:12
@HeikoSand then we can use that as documentation how to add things ;)17:12
lisitsynyeap17:13
lisitsynsounds good17:13
@HeikoSlisitsyn: cool17:13
@HeikoSlisitsyn: the tags should be easy, no?17:13
lisitsynIIRC they are there17:13
lisitsynor there is some plugin17:13
@HeikoSok17:13
@HeikoSlisitsyn: and ..... ETA? :)17:14
lisitsynHeikoS: it could be like a week17:17
@HeikoSlisitsyn: okok17:17
@HeikoSlisitsyn: ok I got one more thing17:17
@HeikoSlisitsyn: plan the GSoC projects17:17
@HeikoSso I have in mind:17:18
@HeikoSinstallation - s?ren17:18
@HeikoSplugin - sergey17:18
@HeikoSshogun detox - lambday, me17:18
lisitsynyes17:18
@HeikoSgp, tensorflow, autodiff - Wu17:18
@HeikoSthe usual suspects - me17:18
@HeikoSand lambday17:18
@HeikoSthese are base projects17:18
@HeikoSand then maybe:17:19
@HeikoSapprox kernel stuff -- s?ren (he asked for that)17:19
@HeikoSbut with this, he needs help in installation so depends17:19
@HeikoSand then fundamental ML2 -- LGSSMs17:19
@HeikoSnot clear who mentors this though17:19
@HeikoSare you fine with the plugin project mentoring?17:19
lisitsynyes sure17:19
@HeikoSlisitsyn: its a tough project17:19
@HeikoSneeds good planinng17:19
@HeikoSand a good description17:19
lisitsynI would be happy to help with installation17:19
@HeikoSso that students feel they get help17:20
@HeikoSah also good17:20
@HeikoSalso fine with two projects?17:20
@HeikoSplugin requires intense mentoring I think17:20
lisitsynit depends17:20
@HeikoSI also dont want to take too many projects,17:20
lisitsynwith a good plan it don't17:20
@HeikoSlast GSoC we ran a bit out of breath17:20
lisitsynyes17:20
@HeikoSyeah also true17:20
lisitsynlet me try to come up with a plan17:20
@HeikoSlisitsyn: see the wiki pages17:20
@HeikoSthey contain a lot already17:21
lisitsynyes there is17:21
lisitsynbut let me check if it matches17:21
lisitsynreality17:21
lisitsyn:)17:21
@HeikoSI put a link to your draft I think17:21
@HeikoSbut yeah have a look....17:21
@HeikoSmaybe we can discuss a schedule a bit?17:21
lisitsynyes once I get through it again17:21
lisitsynsomewhen next week?17:22
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yeah good17:22
@HeikoSlisitsyn: but keep in mind17:22
@HeikoSdeadline was yesterday17:22
@HeikoSso Google will check our list this week17:22
lisitsynyes17:22
@HeikoSwhich means we are judged based on the state it is in then17:22
@HeikoSthat is why I want to do some polishing now17:22
@HeikoSand get some things going like the cookbook17:23
lisitsynHeikoS: I will have some holidays three next days17:31
lisitsynlets see if I manage to push that17:31
@HeikoSnice17:34
leagoetzlisitsyn: HeikoS: I just went through the Wiki for a first polish18:27
leagoetzsince what Heiko said, Google will look at it this week18:27
leagoetzif you notice something Wiki-wise needs attention ->18:27
leagoetzwrite me directly!18:27
leagoetz(as can't guarantee I'll hit on it going through whole thing)18:28
@HeikoSleagoetz: nice, will do :)18:34
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :feature/sphinxdoc * e771185 / doc/sphinx/source/conf.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e771185ea7495d6eb1fbfd4b49ed3430fae38ff018:42
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shogun-notifier-shogun: remove a few obsolete files18:42
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :feature/sphinxdoc * 77ac180 / doc/sphinx/source/examples/classifier/knn.rst: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/77ac180fa7f1ca6f652b38fec15e6b38e5d7c91318:42
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shogun-notifier-shogun: put some initial structure in main file18:42
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :feature/sphinxdoc * 8301506 / doc/sphinx/TODO: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/83015064dd92794d801ee0ff41a841e5b1bc0f9218:42
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@HeikoSlisitsyn: ^18:42
@HeikoSjust put in some more structure18:42
@HeikoSI think this is almost ready to go18:42
@HeikoSwill write example PR soon18:42
@HeikoSwe need the links now18:43
@HeikoSI might have a look myself18:43
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@HeikoSlisitsyn:  hey any idea about this: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/299519:11
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travis-ciit's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/11062836120:20
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